He stated this while addressing his members at the church’s headquarters in Lagos, on the topic of holiness.
Kumuyi stressed that sinners who have refused to repent but support the church with their money are wasting their resources.
Stressing on the importance of living a holy life, Kumuyi said God does not need a “sinner’s money.”
He maintained that it is pointless for a sinner to pay tithes and offerings in church.
“If you are a sinner here, God does not need your money. All the money you are giving in this church does not get to God. You are just wasting your money.
“As a matter of fact if I know the numbers of sinners here and how much they gave as tithes and offering I will remove it and give it back to them. God does not need it and the church does not need it,” Kumuyi said
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Pastor Chris wont like this.
ReplyDeleteI support Kumuyi. Some of our men/women of God don't care where you got the money you are giving them. That is why some many ministries have died a natural death. Some are called by God, have great ministry, but the issue of money, money, money and material things have finished their ministry. I am yet to see a man/woman of God of this generation that will preach for a whole one hour without mentioning money and "what you can give to your pastor". It is hard to see them talk about genuine repentance and the walk with God. All you hear is about how God uses them and how gifted they are in miracles. And the next thing you hear is how you will appreciate God after God uses them to meet your needs. How has Christianity turned to merchandize? It hurts me a lot to see this. When I got born again, we were thought holiness, God will provide all our needs according to riches glory by Christ Jesus, etc. Not now again oo, no more preaching of holiness. It just the subtle pressure to give for this, for that, is all we see. I believe offering is good, tithe is also good. I am a tither and also give my offerings, but the issue of monetizing the word of God is disheartening, and a complete disservice to God. I counted about 21 places or more where the scriptures says that it is better the pastors focus more on the talk about righteousness than the talk about sacrifices (offerings). And Samuel said, “Has the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to listen than the fat of rams.1 Samuel 15:22. In the word of God he has said it that to do righteousness and justice is more acceptable to the Lord than sacrifice. Prov 21:3.
DeleteGuard your steps when you go to the house of God. To draw near to listen is better than to offer the sacrifice of fools, for they do not know that they are doing evil. Ecl 5:1.
It all means that God is more concerned about teaching people about how to live holy than whatever money or material things they will give. A person who lives in sin, but comes to church and gives you money and offering as a pastor, you will answer for the soul of that person. Our modern day pastors are aware that a lot of people just come for miracles, if they hear that a particular person prays and miracles happen, they rush there. It is your duty to use that opportunity to lead that person to Christ, follow them up and pray for their salvation instead of helping them get the miracle they seek and collect the money and seed they have to offer. You will answer for it. If they are coming to you because you carry God's anointing, don't take advantage of to make money off them. If you do, God will take that anointing from you and give it to who will use it for soul winning and not money making!
How does he know sinners and non sinners?
ReplyDeleteWho is he to judge who has sinned against God and who hasn't? So he's playing God Almighty now? It's ok, we're watching.
Abeg close your mouth.
DeleteThat's how u ppl support evil
Your first paragraph says it all
DeleteFor all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. We're all sinners begotten in iniquity.
@Sandra and Ijeoma
DeleteThis is how he knew;
1 Corinthians 5: 12What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church?
Are you not to judge those inside? 13God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.” d
My main concern is why he hasn't expelled them from the church.
Ahhh otio expel sinners from the church? No hope then for some of us, because I was told Christ came for sinners...an doesnt mean that we never commit sin ever, we fall and we get up and His grace sustains...I dont understand this type of Christianity where sinners are kicked out of the church...
DeleteWe can all be "sinners", but not all us are living in sin. If you are a saved Christian who is working towards perfection, you fall into the "all have sinned" category, but you are not living in sin. Pastor Kunuyi is referring to those living in sin. They are those are still not saved or born again. Those who are living their lives not according to the word of God, who are still doing 'runs', stealing, committing all manner of things, but comes to church to look for miracle. He is saying you should as a pastor focus more on winning their souls and not what they have to offer!
DeleteHaq haq haq judge Judy. Who are the sinners?
ReplyDeleteYou think you are righteous?? 😂 😂 😂 LORD HAVE MERCY!!!
There is no saint in the church or on earth.
ReplyDeleteWe all are sinners.
He should do his work winning souls and leave judgement for God.
1 Cor. 5: 12What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church?
DeleteAre you not to judge those inside? 13God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.” d
So are you saying all sinners are wicked? You've quoted this verse 2ce, explain your line of thought. We are all sinners, even Kumuyi. Anon is right, he should focus on winning souls and leave judgement for God.
Delete****, you go quote tire today o. It's your type that raise up your nose why you just look at a person and perceive that person is a sinner. Your type make being a Christian a difficult job but God pass all of una since His ways are not your ways.
DeleteKumuyi
DeleteIs talking about those who have known the truth but remain in their sins😍😍😍😍
Hahahahaha ... Easier said than done
ReplyDeleteHa abiakwa o.
ReplyDeleteNo forgiveness again?
H for Hypocrisy.
ReplyDeleteArant okoto.
M for Mtcheeeeeeeeeew
Charlatan. Nobody speaks for God.
DeleteYou could as well have said 'nobody speaks for God's than call him a charlatan. Every idle word spoken would be accounted for. Watch the words you speak. Was there any need for the coarse word you just typed? The koboko for any man of God anointed or self proclaimed is in the hand of God.
DeleteShaz, better watch your tongue.
DeleteShaz, you called an 80 years old man a charlatan??? Because of his own opinion??
DeleteWhy can you voice yours and move on??? Must you call him name???
May God have mercy on you...
Ikwakwakwa ikwa 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 Saint maduakor
ReplyDeleteIkwakwakwa ikwa 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 Saint maduakor
ReplyDeleteAnankoyeri!
ReplyDeleteIf you all don’t like what he said move on simple.. How can people stand to insult a Man of God
ReplyDeleteIf you all don’t like what he said move on simple.. How can people stand to insult a Man of God
ReplyDeleteIf you all don’t like what he said move on simple.. How can people stand to insult a Man of God
ReplyDeleteLet him get ready to return the whole of his Church members Tithes then, for no one is righteous except God. some people try to live a good life by his grace but that does not make them righteous, as people commits sin in one way or the other. he should understand that the word righteous belong to God and not man. except he meant a specific sinners like ritualist, arm rubbers, prostitutes and yahoo boys/girls.
ReplyDeleteTrue ohhh, we all sin at one point or another.
DeleteHis church members carry sin for head like gala. Yes I am judging them.
DeleteHahahahaha so you know the sinners. You will only know them when Holy Spirit reveals it to you.
ReplyDeleteThe topic Holiness should continually be preached in all churches. A lot have deviated from the Holiness of God.
Without Holiness no man can see God Almighty
@Yoriprincess, my dear, no more oh! It is money, money and money. Some pastors can talk about money and tithe for the whole service. May be word of God is given little time. Any church you see people trooping in, check it, that church has raining miracles and people are giving money in exchange. Are these people have the heart for God? As a man of God, your job is to win these souls following you to Christ and not make money off them. It has caused a lot of pastors to be advertising their miracles online to attract people. Once people go to them, they pray, the next thing you hear is money, money, money. These people you're getting money from, where are they getting these money? Who are they? So many mysteries in this life, some evil people can curse money and give it to a longer throat pastor, piam, ministry dies. Some gifts have destroyed anointing. If you have a great gift from God, devil can use accursed things to destroy anointing. Let them keep collecting from whoever sent money, alert, and everything, they are not collecting for God, but for their selves! Some destroy their children and family from gifts received. I have seen some men of God boom boom, but end badly! Please people of God use wisdom. You hear, "Give, give, give to the ministry and see what God will do for you", who are these people giving? Go into prayer and seek spiritually whom some of them really are and come back and tell us.
DeleteWhat a clown
ReplyDeleteGet ready to return all your members tithes then, including yours
You don't need to call him a clown if your opinions differs...
Deletehe said if he knows sinner he will retu6the tithes....key word is know and you all are out there saying who is he to judge... moreover he is right and he is just pointing out facts.i don't know why people don't support and appreciate good people
ReplyDelete@Chi Samuel,
DeleteThen let him close the church because he too is a sinner, or will you tell me he is 100% holy?
Anon 13:10
DeleteAre you saying that one can not live holy?
Why then did Jesus come to die? To save us from sin into sin?. I read in the Bible that Jesus Christ is coming back for a holy and saintly Church. Pray tell,who are the people that 2 These 5:17 talk about that would be raptured
Please if you are replying,make it constructive and not just to attack me
Please do, Jesu mbo. Fear of death looming.
ReplyDeletePoster kumuyi we are all sinners.
ReplyDeleteContinue your bombing (tithe) your clients are willing to pay always.
I am shocked at the comments. ForGod sakes you lot condem men of God that take money without condemning sin, and still insult the one that says that he will return your money, if you are living in sin. Keyword "living in sin".
ReplyDeleteGod does not accept such monies and he started a fact.
So because no one is holy, a kidnapper, armed robber, ritualist,rapist etc, who are consciously living and sin, refuse to repent and keeps going to church and giving, should not be refunded his money because "nobody holy pass"?
And we want revival?
Most of us accuse Pastor's of being the cause of many atrocious acts due to their "indirect and even direct" support of church members that are doing evil, and still condemn Pastor Kumuyi for saying he will return tithes and offerings of any know sinner.
I just tire 😐
All Nigerians know how to do is complain and find holes to pick in everything, that is why I don't pity them when they start facing the consequences. Very tedious.
DeleteTell them. It's simply impossible to please the world.
DeleteObioma nwannem I tire oh! We don't know what they really want. Some are just there to argue even if it is not necessary. We are complaining that pastors demand for money, money without minding how the monies are coming from. These ones are saying yau yau here. People who can barely read and comprehend, all they do is read headline and jump to comment section. Nawao!
DeleteDon't mind them. Always quick to judge and throw tantrums.
DeleteComprehension is hard for some people...
I'm here wondering how he'll distinguish between sinners and non sinners....
ReplyDeleteThe Bible says .... ALL have sinned and come short of His Glory.
He may have been misquoted though. What do I know? 🤷🏿♂️
I no Dey like talk pastor matter but I know God is the ultimate judge.
ReplyDeletePlease return I am one of the sinners and my tithe is about 40 million.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
ReplyDeleteBut everyone commits sin and even him too , so I don’t understand the post though
ReplyDeleteAmos 5:21-24
ReplyDelete“I hate, I despise your feasts, and I take no delight in your solemn assemblies. Even though you offer me your burnt offerings and grain offerings, I will not accept them; and the peace offerings of your fattened animals, I will not look upon them. Take away from me the noise of your songs; to the melody of your harps I will not listen. But let justice roll down like waters, and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream.
True words. Where you treasure is , there your heart is. A sinner's treasure is on earthly gains alone
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