Presiding Bishop of the Living Faith Church, Bishop David Oyedepo has stated that marriage vows – “For better for worse” which people recite when getting married, is a curse.
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Wednesday, March 27, 2019
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I don't think it is scriptural. It is man made. Anyway it is good to be part of marriage rite
ReplyDeleteThat part was ommitted during my marriage 13yrs ago,because my pastor also believed it to be a curse. There was nothing like in sickness and healty,but in health wealth and riches in chris Jesus.
ReplyDeleteI don't support it either that's why we didn't say it when we tied the knot..We changed it to the positive ones only...
ReplyDeletePapa the Papa. I miss Canaanland mennn!
ReplyDeleteI think the Catholic Church started it and everyone else ran with it.
ReplyDeleteThat's why it's better to write your own vows.
Yes it isn't scriptural but saying it's a curse is what I don't understand. It would have been better if he had thrown more light on that.
ReplyDeleteWhy would you be prophesying sickness and a poor status on a day that should be only meant for happiness, are you wishing yourself such in future. You are supposed to claim positive sayings instead
Delete09:55 I think I get you clear now and understand the point he is making. Such a good and encouraging one though but in the other hand I believe those marital vows stands as a reminder also when things takes a wrong turn, for definitely it often does.
DeleteYou don't deny the fact or knowledge that there will be worse moment in marriage.
It's not a curse. It's reality. In good and and in bad, such is life
DeleteSo Pastors don't add for worse to it. Their argument is if you vow for worse from the beginning it means that you must meet worse in your marriage. That marriage suppose to be from better to best
ReplyDeleteIn other words when it gets worse there should be separation. How about the scriptural one that says God hates divorce except on the account of adultery. even on the account of adultery people tend to read the first paragraph and leave the second paragraph that says a divorced person must remain unmarried any one who marries a divorced person is committing adultery and a divorced person getting married is committing adultery
ReplyDeleteYou lack understanding cause you are talking off point. Why would you want it to get worse? There is power in the tongue, what happened to saying for better for best. He's talking about marriage vows not separation or divorce
DeleteYes..oh! Power of the tongue. Power of perceptions & believe is real!!!
ReplyDeleteMany women & men too have suffered untold unplanned hardship, unforseen deceptions, faced avoidable sorrows from marriage or relationship curses, from this "for poorer & in sickness" binding vows.
*how u marry an impotent man, post menopause woman & yet be crying for not having child?
*how can u marry a mad person & yet be surprised at being miserable or unhappy ?
* how can u marry a lazy fellow, unfocused person, prostitute, pimp or gigolo & yet be questioning how u r broken too in spirit or financially drained all the time?
*how can u enter into marriage with a shady character, witch, wizard, cultist, ritualist, drug dealer , evil person & yet be surprised when u enter plane & it drops suddenly from the sky?
I understand what papa is saying. Truth of the matter is that there will be better and bad days in marriage. It is scriptural not to say it out so that it Will not be a curse especially coming from the mouth of a priest
ReplyDeleteI don't like it. My church doesnt support it.
ReplyDeleteThere is a very deep meaning in that vow except we want to lie.
ReplyDeleteIn sickness and in good health, in richer or poorer....so is it only when things are great you'll be there for your spouse?
The vow is symbolic to the kind of love Christ (the groom) has for the church (the bride), and its people, where he suffered for us and will now enjoy with us in eternal life.
So also husband and wife should stick to each other whether rosy or not. That is the true test of great love!
Job did not curse or abandon God when things went awry either which means when we say this vow, we intend to be there for our better half no matter what but I think chivalry is dead in this generation and to even see true love, it would be hard!
May God give us the wisdom to always do the right thing.
Thank you.
DeleteWhy una dey shy away for reality.
This is what happens when we try to be too literal, we spend valuable time and energy arguing that there's a difference between six and half a dozen or fifty years and half a century. What's the difference between " marriage is a union for life" and "in sickness and in health, for better or worse"? Semantics.
ReplyDeleteThe harsh reality is, in the duration of a marriage either or both parties will have issues and challenges. There are ups and downs in every marriage, some worse than others. Some start off on solid financial grounds, midway they meet some obstacles, some overcome and become stronger, some don't. Some suffer healthwise, some don't. Whatever your lot is, the same Christian doctrine teaches that you should stick to your spouse like glue. So what's the curse in "for better or worse"? I feel it's much ado about very little.
Whether or not you recite it openly before God and the congregation, "for better or worse, for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health, till death do us part..." is implied in every Christian marriage. After all, no pastor in Nigeria will encourage you to abandon your spouse who is going through health crisis or a change in personality or financially handicapped. Don't they give prayer points and offer counselling for troubled marriages? Even in sensitive matters like domestic violence, most pastors still encourage the couple to remain married. So what's all the fuss about?
There are some basic things that are not written in the Bible but you are expected to use your discretion. That the Bible is silent on hygiene during your monthly cycle doesn't mean you should wear a sanitary pad for 24 hours or not wear a pad at all, or refuse to use dental floss because "where is it written in the Bible that you should floss or see the dentist at least twice a year"?. Not everything must have scriptural quotes before you do them. Some things are done for the sake of simple human decency. The Bible is a guide with words having spiritual references open to various interpretations, therein lies the problem. Your interpretation may be different from mine, hence the plethora of doctrines and denominations in christianity.
I agree with you. In reality a vow for forever is for better or worse
DeleteThank you!!!
DeleteGod bless you!
DeleteThanks you said my mind.
DeleteLife always have good and bad times...be you are Christian or a pagan...or whatever you claim to be..there is rain and sunshine..and so is life...
Thank you for an eloquent explanation.
DeleteGod bless you for putting it so plainly.
DeleteI'm often surprised when folks skim past the part of the bible that says "take up your cross and follow me"
What do people think the cross is,wealth?...... In life,there will always be issues, some easy to settle, others will be hard. Marriage is not a joke,it's not for the faint hearted especially in this modern times when values have changed and there are now all sorts of weird practices and beliefs. I think its extremely irresponsible of any body to let a couple think that saying "for better for worse... In sickness and In health" is a curse,that person is desperately wicked, because they do not want that marriage to work,they are deliberately misguiding the couple making them think that marriage is all smooth and easy. Nothing in life is easy,talk more of marriage.
So when sickness and issues come, should the couple break up?
Thank you Ronalda, you couldn't have said it better.
DeleteOf course, there is no way in the Bible where it is written "For better for worst" It is man-made doctrine
ReplyDeleteI've heard pastors preach don't marry someone that can't pray, or won't pray for one hour or doesn't go to weekly Bible studies. Sisters and brothers that is not scripture. Don't out roadblocks in your way from meeting a good spousembfont be your own enemy. Find a good person and marry. Don't say must be from same church. There's no such thing in scripture
ReplyDeleteThank you!!
Deleteif you are a believer why marry someone who cannot pray? foolish people just run with part of what pastors say without thinking or looking at the whole contest of their message. he was trying to emphasize that you marry someone who can tarry in prayer. a serious christian marries a man or woman who cannot pray then when trouble comes una go dey zozo upandan looking for prayer contractors..blogs will carry part of a message and sensationalize it. fact is marry someone who views marriage with your spiritual eyes and can at least be on the same page with you, you don't have to be on the same level but close to
DeleteMountain of Fire doesn't use It, it is a curse
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