This issue is the cause of a raging issue in my church at the moment which prompted the church authorities to order all the married couples to present their marriage certificates or proof of a bride price payment.
There is this Elder in his 50s, a respected man in the church.
Last October, his wife fell sick and died. The church in its usual tradition rose in support of the family, cash donation was announced, a bus was set aside to convey people to Delta state when the burial date is fixed and so on.
Now, this February, the church committee members noticed that the woman's corpse was staying too long in the morgue with no suitable explanation from the Elder, anytime they meet with this man in order for him to brief them on the burial arrangement, he would say "my wife's family said this, they said that, her uncle said.., her mum said..'
They did not understand why he did not have a say in his wife's burial arrangement, a woman he lived with for over 20yrs. So the head of the committee called the eldest child secretly and asked her what was going on. That was when the bombshell was released.
Elder had been telling them lies all this while. He was not properly married to the woman all these years. No bride price was paid until her death and so the family insisted that before he can bury their daughter, he has to come down to her village and perform the marriage rites. If he fails to do so, he would see Hell.
Elder could not afford all of these and he was too ashamed to open up to the church. So the woman's corpse remained in the morgue, the controversy within the two families raged on and Elder continued to lie to the church.
Now, the church have sent Elder on indefinite suspension till they decide the next line of action to take on the matter.
Mama Tee
This one hard
ReplyDeleteThe deed has been done. They need to rally round with the Elder to do the needful. Who amongst them that has not sinned should throw the first stone.
Deletewhat"s the purpose of the suspension at this point? rally round your member, get the woman buried then you can give him appropriate punishment for lying to the church...but the love and fellowship must be felt now..that woman was your member and the family must be supported at a time like this.
DeleteChai! This is terrible
ReplyDeleteThis is so common
ReplyDeleteI have an auntie that is living like this, no dowry, no registry... With 3kids,all grown up.
Over 22years living as couple yet no dowry paid.
I can't deal abeg....
The pride and joy that comes with a man performing his rites can't be over emphasized
That your first question/sentence is what these girls will attack you for. They see it as "trending" and "advancement"; imitation of Oyinbo etc. They will quickly open legs and collect belle and when dumped, they abort, sulk, become bitter and write pity-party chronicles.
ReplyDeleteBut for the Oyibos, when there is pregnancy, they will do DNA, get courts to compel the man to pay child support, deliver under health insurance cover etc. . . the lists go on.
Will they hear. They are probably coming for my head under my comment but I no fear, you no go fit cut off ghost head; can you?
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DeleteI DEY YOUR SIDE SISTER. PROPER MARRIAGE CAN NEVER BE REPLACED BY CO-HABITING.
DeleteBabe mama surely better pass this one nah! Once ur family accept d pikin, even if u die,family go bury u normal.
Deletealot of people are victim of such circumstances. how can you be leaving with a woman and even have kids without paying bride price? i just taya for some people. whether we like it or not, this is Nigeria and we follow tradition. if not for anything , for your own parents pride atleast. now see what she is putting her family through in death. i pity her kids sef. this is just too shamefulll. Biko he should go and pay the bride price, elder my foot. when he was quenshing her he did not no. church should better help and contribute. mmmmmttttewwwwwww.
ReplyDeletealot of people are victim of such circumstances. how can you be leaving with a woman and even have kids without paying bride price? i just taya for some people. whether we like it or not, this is Nigeria and we follow tradition. if not for anything , for your own parents pride atleast. now see what she is putting her family through in death. i pity her kids sef. this is just too shamefulll. Biko he should go and pay the bride price, elder my foot. when he was quenshing her he did not no. church should better help and contribute. mmmmmttttewwwwwww.
ReplyDeleteSee what some Women use their hand to cause how can a man not pay your bride-price for 20years and you still have more and one Child for him, that man self must be very wicked and greedy.oga Elder please biko go pay ya Dues ooo.
ReplyDeleteNa wa. When men think they have sense, they dont know they will meet the evil days they are postponing.
ReplyDeleteIf you dont pay pride price, during death you will pay TRIPLE.
This is bad. Una no try at all ooo, instead of helping elder, you people put him in suspension even with his trial that he is going through. Chai
So what has the man been doing for over 20years that he didn't pay even if it was by installment and he was lying about the reason when he knew why. Even if dey help him he still needs to be punished so that others can learn
Deletewe call it kwarangida marriage. Why will a woman pack her loads into the house of a man that did not pay ten kobo on your head? Tufiakwa ,ordinary bride price, he couldn't pay for more than 20years? SMH
DeleteThey should forgive him na. What happens to the forgiveness that the church always preach?
DeleteEeya. Double tragedy for him. It's not news that unions like this exist. They're very common in Abj. I once had a neighbor like that in abj who were living together without proper marriage. Seems they were dating when she got pregnant and that was how she moved in. From one child, like play like play they had four within a space of five years I lived in that house. I'm sorry to say this but she was just giving birth like cockroach (I'm sorry).
ReplyDeleteThe other neighbors knew their story and they were not happy with the way things were going. Funny enough, the man didn't even love her despite the kids cos they were ALWAYS fighting...oh Lord! Finally, it got to a point where they couldn't afford the rent. Guess what, he used the opportunity to send her to her village with the kids while he stayed back to 'hustle'. Hustle fire! I'm sure that's the end of that union. I wonder how that lady will pick up the pieces of her life with four kids and no source of income. Ladies should be very wise.
People do this nonsense alot in lagos, I don't blame the men it's the women offering free pussy that need to get their heads checked properly...how women dash themselves to men for free is something I will never understand.
ReplyDeleteLEP😛
All the pussies wey you dey chop,
Deleteyou pay for them; them no be free pussies?
Na waoo
ReplyDeleteEnd time Hire Purchase...
ReplyDeleteLol
DeleteI pray I don't die before my husband so that my children will not be put to shame like this. We have been together for close to 15 years now, since then No dowry have been paid. He don't even know my village, only my children know my village, four children. But he kno some of my family members and they know him
ReplyDeleteBetter hurry him to do the needful. See how you allow this man go free for 15 years. I am sure your parents are not happy about it but they will not tell you. Even if to do parlour bride price, let him do it quick because your honor is at stake.
DeleteYou try, oya dey clap for yourself
And you keep breeding?
DeleteHe force you enter im house?
No be you carry two left legs waka enter there?
Im rape you?
If you get home training, how you come land there begin breed?
Be there and be praying. He doesn't know your village? Geez! But you all will be abusing singles with go and marry bla bla. This your own now na marriage ?
DeleteMadam pls press him to go an pay your bride price. Even if he goes before you, your children will still be disgraced when you die. Your family will say you disrespected them by Co habiting with the man that owns not pay your bride price and had kids for him. They may not participate in your burial. They will leave it for you kids alone.
DeleteAnd you don't have to insult her cos she opened up, follow Yori Yori pattern by advising her. Some of una sef una paleh never pay una maleh bride price
DeleteE be like say na u dat anon dey talk about...lagos marriage
DeleteExactly Deenity, someone opened up and y'all are acting like your own lives are perfect. Madam it is well. In addition to prayer, talk to your husband again and to someone he respects eg pastor, friend, older relative etc to also talk to him. Let him know you both don't have to do something elaborate, but simple and not very expwn.
Delete*expensive
DeleteAnd how is he your husband when he didnt pay ur pride price infact you are worse than sidechick
DeleteIs common in Lagos, Abuja, PH, & warri more than half of the couple are not properly married
ReplyDeleteNo be new thing na... Come my area, dem boku wella... I call them iyawo nylon bag...
ReplyDeleteWelcome iyawo Ghana must go bag😅😅
DeleteIYAWO SARA NI O
DeleteI know one woman..an ex neighbour actually. Gist had it that she was used as a pawn to drive away the man's first wife.. she got preggy, moved in with the man & had a son for him without proper marriage ceremony.. well, she had a 2nd child & anytime they fought, she'll tell the man that'll hell pay double dowry/bride price if she should die in his house.. karma came calling & she's now out of the man's house..living single.
ReplyDeleteLord have mercy on women!!
Hmmmmn
DeleteIs better she leaves single n stay single
DeleteIt is rampant and is very wrong. I know of a family friend their own is over 30 years together no dowry has been paid, they even have grand children.
ReplyDeleteThis story is a sad one
ReplyDeleteMy people it happened in my own family oo! My younger sister moved in with a man had 3 children a boy and two girls up till today no bride price has been paid. Her first daughter is 17 years old so you can imagine how long they have been together. She is not even enjoying the marriage because she is the breadwinner. My sister pays school fees,hOuse rent,buys food in the house. The man has been always broke from time an illiterate,NFA no future ambition, doesn't know how to hustle always depending on my sister. They are always fighting and making love at the same time my sister is still with him and the idiot wants more children but my sister went and did family planning without his knowledge. I weep for my sister but I always pray for her to have the heart to end that relationship. Their story can fill up a book domestic violence involved abeg I tire to type jare
ReplyDeleteSince she does all these things won't it be better to live alone? Domestic violence join smh.
DeleteMy sis in law has four children for a man that has not paid her dowry. And she can brag eh.I wonder what she feels like. She loves the man die. He doesn't even knows her village, let alone her kinsmen. Any Small thing, she has posted on Facebook i.e. 2nd honeymoon ( as if there was a first one o). The way she covers up for the guy de vex me. At times She'll post pics on Facebook and caption it as post wedding pictures. Like say make I slap her.
ReplyDeleteHer love is really blind. At least the man should go and put something on her head.
DeleteLol
ReplyDeleteMy dear, you took the question from my mouth. why suspend him? what is it supposed to correct.
ReplyDeletethis is what is referred to as "common law marriage" its very common in Nigeria and (i think) recognized as legal in some places. anyway, what i don't get is why the church suspended him. at the end of the day, the woman's family will loose cos the man and his children can decide to bury her in Lagos (assuming this is where this took place) and go on with their lives. after all a burial is a burial and the dead knows nothing
ReplyDeleteIn igbo land and some parts of Delta state,he dare not touch her corpse without d woman's family's consent else he will pay dearly for it..
DeleteI have seen where a man stubbornly buried his wife without d lady's families consent(he married her oh,ifs just bcos of marital issues),d woman family came and exhumed her corpse and took it away while they beat up d man and his family for burying their sis without their consent..
U never jam some families.
They should not try it oh.
Exactly
ReplyDeleteI did only court wedding and was living with my wife for about 9 years before I went ahead and did the proper thing by paying her dowry and doing a little traditional marriage after having 3 kids. My parents forced me to do it early because it is a thing of shame. We have been married now for over 15 years and I am glad that we have done the right thing...
ReplyDeleteLagos marriage, Hmmm shame
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