How can a church own a school and the poor can't attend it...? How can you be teaching people how they can make it to the kingdom of God when they can't enter your own earthly 'kingdom', built with people's tithes and donations...? How can Christian schools be the most expensive schools in Nigeria now...? How can one relate this to the term "Christianity" with regards to the "Early Christian Community" ?
Note: Most of the good people in the world now have nothing to do with christianity, just like most Christians are far from it too.
Another academic session, and parents are paying through their noses to send the kids back to school.
A word will always be enough for the wise! Happy a nice day!
Note: Most of the good people in the world now have nothing to do with christianity, just like most Christians are far from it too.
Another academic session, and parents are paying through their noses to send the kids back to school.
A word will always be enough for the wise! Happy a nice day!
True talk. I have always wondered same. All offerings and yet, they won't even be considered.
ReplyDeleteHe's 100% correct
DeleteIn my own opinion
Pastors are not meant to be Extremely wealthy but that's a topic for another day
I totally agree with him. For most structures built by churches, you will hear "contribute", yet members cant ve access as they are the most expensive when we should use the oportunity to win souls for God cos if that isnt the aim, churches dont have buisness with schools. Tooo bad
DeleteHeartless pastors disguise in suit
DeleteHe is making sense
DeleteI agree with you brown sugar.
DeleteThere is nothing true about talk. Church is run as a charity. School is strictly business. There is nowhere in the world that post primary education is free. In the USA,UK, Canada and other developed nations there are student loans for those who want tertiary education. If churches run schools for free how would they pay their staff? How would they develop infrastructure and equip the schools? Even the federal government is struggling to keep public schools afloat. They can't even pay teachers. How much more churches? People should stop posting things on public media without proper research. And no I don't own a school. I am a parent who currently who 2 children in secondary school. Evidence shows that mission schools are far cheaper than other private schools in Nigeria. Practically all former presidents and their VP's and other former and current political office holders in Nigeria own schools. Go check out the school fees and compare with what mission schools are charging.
DeleteI beg to differ, secondary school in the States is free..
DeleteI agree with him, most of the churches in Nigeria have the most expensive schools.
ReplyDeleteHe is right
DeleteHe is 1million percent right!!! Evil pastors and their insatiable greed
DeleteThey call themselves pastors, yet the poor can't attend their stupid schools msheww
Na God go judge!!
Schools built on donations from the poor. Issokay
ReplyDeleteHow much did one poor person donate? That they should accept his or her child at a cheap rate. Did the poor person donate more than 20000?
DeleteDid a poor person pay or not? Is it christian to build schools from tithes and offerings and make the fees exorbitant? Is I even human? Churches are mainly attended by those who are "poor". Even if one doesn't donate up to #20000 in total, other poor people have donated to, but you don't see all the poor going to seek admission in those schools.
DeleteDid a poor person pay or not? Is it christian to build schools from tithes and offerings and make the fees exorbitant? Is I even human? Churches are mainly attended by those who are "poor". Even if one doesn't donate up to #20000 in total, other poor people have donated to, but you don't see all the poor going to seek admission in those schools.
DeleteAnon 13:10, you must be a very wicked person and out of touch with the realities of life plus present day living. What did you just write??? SMH!!!!!
DeleteSee your head like crankshaft there! Asking me stupid kweshion. Do you know how these churches enforce giving like the law of Moses? Do you know how much they take from the poor on a weekly basis? Little droplets of water they say.... Fill in the gap, tchew!
DeleteAnnon 13:10. I was expecting a sheep like you to come defend their pastor. Even if what they donated was small, ever heard of a "widows mite"? Ofcos not. Churches don't preach about that again. They want almost all you have. A rich man might have donated 1mill but in the sight of God, it isn't worth more than the 1k a poor man struggle to donate. I remember back in school when "church fellowships" will be nearly bullying church members especially church workers to buy their pastor something just cos another fellowship bought something similar for theirs. A pastor shldnt be a billionaire, he shldnt live a life of luxury on other peoples sweat. That goes against everything the early Christians stood for. Even Jesus himself said "it's easier for a rich man to go through the eye of a needle than enter the kingdom of God". Most of you don't actually read your bible or focus on God. It's always "my pastor,my pastor".
DeleteThe last straw for me was when the "Heaven's Gate" actress Caroline Johnson died of Leukaemia. I had seen her a few months ealier begging for donations and I was surprised cos the pastor of the church that ran the tv show is a freaking billionaire.
Go educate yourself about how much iy takes to run a school. How much is offering money?
DeleteWhere on earth did they get the info that it's church money they use in building schools?
Prince Eke, nkw we know you still exist. Run along
LaEotten feeling fresh, now I know why those who abuse u do so. You and Anon 13.10 r no different.
DeleteThose poor people gave their widows mite - go and read ur Bible about what value Jesus placed on d widows mite over d large donations of d rich.
Furthermore, most of those poor people spent their weekends carrying sand and cement during d construction on site of d schools.
If d money did not come from d church, tell me what other businesses ur daddy GO's do dat d initial capital did not come from d offerings.
Hediots and Shediots.
Lafresh,pls start using ur brain
DeleteDo u know that most of dis pastors persuade their members into giving their life savings in the name of tithe?
They collect tithe every Sunday ,do 1st,2nd,3rd,4th collection,plus tithe and the go ahead to collect foundation laying tithe.
Pls stop sitting on ur rotten brain
Anon 13:10 the poor may not contribute financially, but they carry blocks, cement and do other memial jobs on site. I remember by boss during my industrial attachment told me during the construction of Covenant University carried mixed cement as he didn't have money to contribute.
DeleteNigerian pastors and politicians sef, I don't see any difference.
Robyna God bless u real good.
DeleteLafresh u disapoint me. Xtainity is dead n buried. Its so painful that d givings of d poor re of little or no value at all. It hurts so bad.
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ReplyDeleteReligion na wash na. Serious wash. Only the very wise understand this. This guy said something very important- he said most of the good people in the world had nothing to. Do with christianity. Word. Keep donating your hard-earned money to the Oyedepos, Adeboyes, Okoties et al. But remember one thing, never you use the word "mugu" on anyone. Na you be the final mugu.
DeleteNot only in Nigeria but worldwide. Hypocrisy of the highest order. They were for personal enrichment. Your heart is your church and God knows his people not by word/preaching but by their hearts and doings. They call Gods name and preach all day but they make themselves so elite and unreacheable and some of them were so vain and superficial
ReplyDeleteIt is not happening in US. Churches here (not sure about Nigerian churches located here) offer tuition at a discounted rate and at times free calculated based on the income of family if they are members of the church. Base tuition is lower for members of the church. and if you have a need based on reduced or no income, churches are willing to lessen tuition further or even offer free tuition.
DeleteNigeria is a different and pitiful case.
Worldwide? For real? Thought it was only in nigeria
DeleteIt's worse in Africa.
DeleteIt's not worldwide. Haa!
DeleteNot only in Nigeria but worldwide. Hypocrisy of the highest order. They were for personal enrichment. Your heart is your church and God knows his people not by word/preaching but by their hearts and doings. They call Gods name and preach all day but they make themselves so elite and unreacheable and some of them were so vain and superficial
ReplyDeleteIt only buttresses the fact that today's church is first of all a business venture, before any thing else. That's the only explanation for it. The Adeboyes and Oyedepos that u worship are all about wordly gains - prosperity.
ReplyDeleteFeel free to cuss me for saying the truth
When they die their kids inherit the money that was supposed to be for the church whether they have "the calling" or not.
DeleteEESAH, you are 100% right but we need to pray for inner eyes for those who are blinded to the exploitation of all these their GOs and daddies!!!
DeleteI am telling you, new churches spring uo on a daily basis. As far as I am concerned, most of them are business ventures
DeleteI guess you are a Catholic. Please make sure u add your rev father that has Madonna university
DeleteHe's making sense
ReplyDeleteI wonder what pastors are doing with all the monies they collect from students attending their schools
Gathering money upon money.
People's offerings and tithes yet you make your schools expensive that the people that pay tithes in your church can't send their kids too.
So they collect money and don't develope the schools? How many government school is as developed and well equipped like any private school in naija.
DeleteMaybe you should also question your government what they use fees for?
Its not beans to run an higher institution
Swag laftesh thank you
DeleteInstead of them to be questioning the federal and state government, they are looking for individuals to question..
Why isn't federal school free? Why isn't state school cheap?
You are not asking a private school to be cheap when state school fees is not cheap or free
Both of you are wrong in all sides
DeleteHow much was Adeboye and Oyedepo worth before they became the big men of God they are today?
Do they do any other job aside being full time pastors?
They make all their monies from the offerings and tithes of their church members
The members literally made them rich
I'm not saying they should open the doors of their schools to everyone for free
They should at least make it affordable.
It's affordable because pple go there. Ask your government why their school isn't free. Give yourself to the calling of God and build a crèche at least and make it free.
DeleteSum will go as far as driving children out of school NT considering wot myt happen to d child on dia,way home. It's just very bad
ReplyDeleteThat's how my church will be making us do special offering every Sunday for building of University. If I hear say I give dem my money
Delete@Roseberry, MFM right?
DeleteMust every church own a university, cant they focus on fixing existing schools and building up the communities where they are located. Fixing of bore holes in local communities, maternity clinics etc
DeleteSensa thank u. These people generate funds from books, cds, dvds sales, offerings n tithes n 4 goodness sakes they aint even tax payers o. So im so wondering y their schools aint affordable. No one is saying it should b free but it should b affordable 4 christ's sakes.
DeleteThis his rant makes a lot of sense
ReplyDeleteMissionary schools used to be cheap but these Chritian school are so expensive .
More of business .
I totally agree wit u, its way too much, they build schools in d name of d church nd make it affordable only 4 d rich. Forgetting that they'll set a pace for others to follow. Those schools built in names of churches re supposed to be cheaper than the govt owned
ReplyDeleteEnter your comment...i totally agree with him
ReplyDeleteGood to know
ReplyDeleteTotally agree.
ReplyDeleteThere is nothing to wonder. Running a school isn't a small thing. Running a private primary school is so much work talk more or a university. For a primary school you are dealing with getting even standard facilities without the aid of the federal government, then imagine a university doing same
ReplyDeleteThey have to get every facility every department they have needs. Thats pricing labs, facilities, and much more. Have you seen the standard in a federal university?? Seem everything provided there?? How every equipment and facility is up to date? That's same thing with private. And they have to get all this things on their own. Maintenance is also on them. Paying salaries is on them. Even down to the hostels and all. Federal university take about 20- 50k for some schools.
State university take about 100k-150k.because their help is from state level only which isn't so much
You now expect a school that is funded, maintained and catered for by an individual to be cheap?? Please you people should step back. It's Sha not by force to go to private university. Go to the one that you can afford or the one your children can afford..
Have you heard of private schools going on strike? If you plan 4yrs, you graduate in 4yrs. But in federal and state, 4yrs is 5yrs sometimes 6yrs.. Because of one reason or the other or something the federal government is delaying to carry out.
In order words, are you saying they don't make any profit? All these you have typed above, have you researched on them? Are your hypothesis tested or are you just stating your imaginations? Pls let's not type rubbish while garnishing nonsense. Call a SPACE a SPADE....
DeleteAfter all these, they still refuse to take most of them that seek employment on neutral grounds without connections.
DeleteNa so.
The white missionaries did it and the schools weren't expensive, so why can't our indigenous churches do it???? Its indeed hypocritical. Those schools were built with peo's money, so why are you asking the same peo to pay fees again???? Yes, Teachers have to be paid and the facilities have to be upgraded...but a church is an NGO and every thing established by the church should be charity based. Its better not to establish those schs at all....Stella, the Universities established by churches are usually the most expensive...they have turned church to a business venture and its simply not right.
DeleteThey don't get anything with their money, they get it with members money. Understand the write-up before you type and support trash.
DeleteSo basically the Church is running a business venture based on the sweat of its church members who will never profit from it. You don't see the problem with this your long epistle?
DeleteFab mum though I luv you, am with Mogana today.
DeleteI love you too queen Amy.. We will always disagree to agree. We can't all have same opinion same time..
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The issue isn't about running an institution to make profit, but providing assistance to children of less privilege in their congregation. For instance, I attended staff school in unilag whilst growing up, I paid staff fees(way cheaper) than non-staff fees.
DeleteAnd where are the missionary schools now? Morgana? They have been collected. Abeg shift. Build yours and give it gree
DeleteVery pathetic
ReplyDeleteThat's very true.
ReplyDeleteVery true.
ReplyDeletevery terrible country we live in. the only church I know of where d students attend for free is OPM. omega power ministries. God will so bless that man Apostle chibuzor chinyere. i am not a member of the church but i watch their programmes on TV. some people say he is fake but i no even send them because the blessings of giving to the poor is sometin that is permanent.
ReplyDeleteif u see the english coming out of the students mouth eh, u will be suprised. so clear and well spoken. Their schools are free. the man even sent some of the students to europe on holiday once. Yet some church university students will be paying up to 2million for fees. people who paid tithe and offering cannot afford the fees. if d europeans who brought education and christianity to Nigeria were like this in those days. A lot of people wouldnt have been educated.
You have said it all my dear. OPM is the real deal, i don't care if he is fake or not. I don't care if he likes to show off his achievements or not
DeleteAll i know is, i like his spirit of giving. And for that alone, God will continue to bless him immensely
NO i am not a member
Stella any parent that send their child to private school isn't paying thru their nose. It's a choice they chose when they have options of federal university and state...
ReplyDeleteBecause the church contributed and the school was built doesn't mean the owner didn't add his own money and didn't get donations. And before you come and start talking I'm catholic.
When you say the poor contributed to build the school, how much exactly did they contribute?? 500 naira to 5000 naira? And because one person contributed 5000 naira, they school fees should be 3500?? What about the very rich people that contributed from 100k,200k,1m,5m,20m,100m,500m? They should now say what?
I have an aunty who has a primary schools do secondary school in Lagos, and the school is top notch. I know what she spends to maintain that school and keep it at the standard it is in. So there is nothing to wonder when it has to do with university
You didn't reason right dear. Have you not heard that little drops of water makes a mighty ocean. Contributing 1kobo and 20thrillion here is inconsequential, the basic fact is that contribution took place.....
DeleteYou said my mind
DeleteFab mum, you like typing nonsense here whenever they are talking about pastors, defending them. Is your husband a pastor? Why can't you just say the truth for once?
DeleteFab mum, you like typing nonsense here whenever they are talking about pastors, defending them. Is your husband a pastor? Why can't you just say the truth for once?
DeleteFab mum or whatever u are called it is nigerians like u dat i cant stand how can u say how can u say d poor ppl don contribute much do u know wat it is to give 10percent of ur wages for wat u believe in.dey pay all dis money and their children Cnt afford to go to dis schools christianityshuld be giving and sharing. And u r sooooo ignorant dat i feel sorry for u
DeleteWhat the hell are you saying? Isnt the church supposed to be about charity and catering to the poor? The 500m the rich man donated, where do you think he got it from? Mostly from robbing the masses blind. Any man that can donate 500m will most likely not send his child to a school in Nigeria when he has better options abroad. Mind you, most of the parents of the kids attending these schools didn't contribute a dime. I know Muslims and Catholics in these schools.
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DeleteNo one is forced to give. If they call out for tithe and you don't have sit down. If they say first, second, third offering and you don't have, don't give. Sit down. It's not by force at all. No one was forced to give at any point.
For the one asking if my husband is a pastor, no, we are catholics but when you people think pastors survive on offerings and tithe the I have to say something. I have been invited to different pentecostal churches for programs and all and some how I know a church doesn't run its self.
Even I'm catholic church were they ate not money conscious like pentecostal, you are still a seed to pay your tithe catholic do first and second offering
We are advice to sow seeds
When programs are coming up, they ask for donation and contribution. Where people give our a lot of money and this money is spent for one program or the other
I'm sure it's not different from pentecostal
Fab mum, I guess you never knew how these "church schools" were built... Let me state the 2 cogent donations made by the (misguided) poor. 1) Their money which you asked how much they contributed simply because it's little to you but to them it's their all! A person who has #500 and parts with #450 in the name of building a "church school" contributed more than the person who has #5m and gave #500k. And 2) This poor people devoted their time and energy working for free as labourers as charged by the "GOs". And when the school was finally built, fees are not less than #300k. And not solid provision for the wards of this poor families who gave their all to the coming to life of this schools. Unfair and WICKED!
DeleteHmmm deep, for only those with common sense.
ReplyDeleteYup.
DeleteHe's right,
ReplyDeleteBut to each their own.
In the end, they'll answer to God.
It doesn't matter how much the poor people contributed, Churches should try and make their schools attendable for the poor too.
ReplyDeleteMost Churches have been blinded by riches and wealth forgetting the ways of Christ.
Looking at it from another view, I'll say is the government fault. If the states and federal government have made schools own by them accessible with good teachers and facilities,(without monthly strike) there would have been no rooms for almost all the Churches in Nigeria to own schools.
But government officials abandoned states and federal government own schools because they all send their children to private or Church own schools.
I pray and hope the minister of education look into the huge sum parents are paying for their children most especially in schools that are own by Churches.
But wait ooo. Must you pple attend the church school? If you can't afford it, face your govt school na
DeleteI saw this yesterday on his IG and it got me thinking and borrowed myself sense concerning all these new generation churches
ReplyDeleteThat's a thoughtful piece by the writer, He's awaken from the mind slavery that has been on for years, most people won't still wake the fvck up,It's just being logical about the whole thingy and you all will see that they are robbing us. Y'all should do the same.#WAKEUP
ReplyDelete@Fab mum,atleast,it should be affordable since the school has other source of fund/income from the church,it should be subsidized.what do I know sef.
ReplyDeleteLucille coconut why can't you go straight to the point instead of trying to get up fab mum ass,fab mum is wrong with all her comments,in your heart you know its wrong but won't come out to say she's wrong outrightly,it just shows the kind of person you are, you don't even have a mind of your own.
DeleteThis fab mum must be a very horrible person,you sure will have a wicked heart.you said your parents send your siblings to private school,that doesn't mean you should become heartless toward other people struggling to survive,Nigeria as a country is corrupt and nothing is working,people are hungry and can't afford to send their children to school.a church is meant to be a charity organisation,I do hope you know the meaning of charity?it doesn't matter if the poor people didn't contribute big money.infact it is the poor that should be giving special preference to get admissions into the school cos they need help.......my children go to private schools cos i can afford it but I feel bad for people that are poor and it's difficult for them to school their children.HAVE A HEART fab mum.
DeleteLucille coconut why can't you go straight to the point instead of trying to get up fab mum ass,fab mum is wrong with all her comments,in your heart you know its wrong but won't come out to say she's wrong outrightly,it just shows the kind of person you are, you don't even have a mind of your own.
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DeleteIt's not wrong for you and I to have different opinion but whether I'm heartless or not should be out of the equation. Thats not your call to make.. Make your disagreement and you comment respectably and if you point seem understanding enough, I might reason your way but you loose me when you go about judging my character from my comment..
Lucille
There is no donation that will be enough for the school to run so much. If it's easy to run a school then federal schools should be free and state schools should be free roo but they aren't even though funded by a government with all the money available to them.
As in he is 100%right
ReplyDeleteI agree with him jor
ReplyDeleteYou all continue talking nonsense. If you want your children to be dull take them to alakara school. Not all fingers are equal. If you have money send them to the best school.
ReplyDeleteIf you want the best then fight for the best. I support paying heavily to get good quality education. How much is the dollars yet people are sending their children abroad.
Jesus have already said it you have the poor, so poor people no start today. After all God Almighty did not make the fingers equal.
If you can't afford then go to the school you can afford, must your kids go to the school. Go home and train your children Prince. Since u no get script for now. Find something do because, pickin don show. And hustle should be doubled
ReplyDeleteDon't mind them .....
DeleteFAB MUM show some empathy. Your type will treat your helps like dirt.
ReplyDeleteAnyone commenting on here without knowing anything about Christianity or how a Christian University is run .. I leave you with the judgement of God
ReplyDeleteFirst thing first, churches are not holding guns on people's heads to donate money. They believe that if you are stupid enough to hand over your money to them, them your pikins are too stupid to attend the schools. A dullard begets a dullard.
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