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A man who was an unbeliever had four wives and each of the four wives have children for him.
The man became born again and his pastor told him to send three wives away and keep one as a christian. If you were to be in this man's shoes what would you do?
What will happen to the three other women and their Children?
This is the part where it gets really confusing for me,because the bible says only one wife is recognised but in same vain it also frowns at divorce.
If you know the answers,please note that i am confused and honestly seeking an answer.
Please discuss this topic only if you have any intelligent input,do not spew trash here...
I will send the rest away and keep only my 1st wife and all of my children.
ReplyDeleteyes, the bible frowns at divorce but then again d other wives aren't recognized in the eyes of God, so, technically, if he sends them out, he isnt divorcing dem.. he shd keep the woman, he is legally married to, ask the rest to leave but keep his children and be responsible for them..
Delete"I haven't come to abolish the laws and the prophets but to fulfill them" - Matthew 5:17 the man accepted Christ. Christ is not about destroying what the man had already. Traditionally he should remain married to all but shouldn't marry more after becoming a Christian. Our ways are not God's way so I guess he will be judged by God with special consideration of his peculiar case. Pastor was wrong to tell him to divorce. Papa Francesco preaches acceptance not dismissal.
Delete@ lala, by all ur children u mean even children from other 3 wives? I'm not sure any woman will be willing to part with her kids, especially when they know they have been relegated to the position of former wives
Delete@bukola...if u r one of those wives,hw u feel? Remember the bible also said dt wat God has joined 2geda,let no man put asunder. Abraham and king solomon had several wives
Delete@bukola...if u r one of those wives,hw u feel? Remember the bible also said dt wat God has joined 2geda,let no man put asunder. Abraham and king solomon had several wives
DeleteHe should send them away cos they are intruders. This is not a case of divorce.
DeleteThe only wrong here is that the pastor is not suppose to tell him what to do. If he's really born again he's supposed to know what to do. He should lead the other wives to Christ and on their own they'll restitute cos they are intruders in that house.
If this story is really true and the poster is asked to choose just one wife, he has no other choice than to go for the woman who gives him rest of mind. It's all about happiness.
DeleteGood luck to you as you take the right decision.
I will read comments. Really interesting topic.
DeleteI'll keep all of themm and marry 3 more; afterall the bible said in the book of Isaiah that 7 women shall cleave on to one man......lol.
DeleteEitherway, i don't think the pastor should dictate to him, sorry.
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I don't think he should chase the wives away. The fact that a man gives his life to christ doesn't mean that his past would automatically get wiped away. God forgives us and takes us the way we are. R they trying to say that if a man looses his arms while robbing and then gives his life to christ, his arms would grow back... he would have to live the rest of his life carrying his mistake around. I think same applies to the man in this case with his four wives. Afterall, great men in d Bible wifed more than 1.... my two cents
DeleteI refuse 2 comment!!!!
DeleteAm sitting on the fence 2day.....
God bless you more. Anon 13:29
DeleteThe pastors are getting confused here.in 1 Cor 7:13.ppl are quick to give this passage just one interpreyation but no.it has multi levels of interpretation.first if you were in a relationship but not legally married you dint have to leave when you give your life to Christ.secondly,if you were in an unscripturally relationship before you encounter Christ like the one in this instance you may not leave cos God understands go to vs 14.the bible is there and answers all questions men are the ones who dnt take time to put themselves in another's shoes.itz time we start practicing intelligent christianity
DeleteThe pastors are getting confused here.in 1 Cor 7:13.ppl are quick to give this passage just one interpreyation but no.it has multi levels of interpretation.first if you were in a relationship but not legally married you dint have to leave when you give your life to Christ.secondly,if you were in an unscripturally relationship before you encounter Christ like the one in this instance you may not leave cos God understands go to vs 14.the bible is there and answers all questions men are the ones who dnt take time to put themselves in another's shoes.itz time we start practicing intelligent christianity
DeleteThe pastors are getting confused here.in 1 Cor 7:13.ppl are quick to give this passage just one interpreyation but no.it has multi levels of interpretation.first if you were in a relationship but not legally married you dint have to leave when you give your life to Christ.secondly,if you were in an unscripturally relationship before you encounter Christ like the one in this instance you may not leave cos God understands go to vs 14.the bible is there and answers all questions men are the ones who dnt take time to put themselves in another's shoes.itz time we start practicing intelligent christianity
DeleteEpiphany and uthman,please don't add or remove lest the plagues in the bible are added to your life.if you don't understand,don't quote,lest you mislead.
DeleteOnly anonymous 14:32 that makes sense.
Deletehmmmm
ReplyDeleteSend them to where now?
DeleteBut if he really has to, then from the 2nd wife down should go. I pity them sha, but then again they were side chicks who came to ruin the happiness of the first wife. #God don catch them
Stella, the pastor is right. It's only the first wife God recognizes. The rest are concubines.
DeleteHowever, in 1Corinthians Chapter 7:15-16, the bible says 'if the unbeliever leaves, the believer is not bound for God has called us to live in peace' -you can look it up.
Who is an unbeliever? Any person that is Doing Things contrary to God's word without repentance. So as much as the bible doesn't condone divorce, if your spouse has gone on his/her own God doesn't call you to live a life of misery while waiting for them to return. If you can remain single and celibate, so be it. But if you can't, I believe you are permitted to find another partner.
Now where human conflict come in is in cases where the estranged spouse returns and is begging for forgiveness. This is why it's important to seek Gods face before making such decisions, because only him knows the future.
About the post topic sef- There was case where a lady married as a second wife as left the home when she got born again. She realized she did it in error. God blessed her with a widower pastor husband in less that a year. The fist wife of the other home begged her to stay, as they were very cordial and even took her kids in after she left. But God compensated her and the ex husband even got born again after seeing the risk she took in order not to miss heaven.
This one pass me. I've come to read comments today.
DeleteThat why is not good to be a second wife because d man fit repent anytime,come pursue u comot. I even heard abt a man who planned with his wife to go outside and get preggers because he couldn't father a child. Now,after about 20 yrs,dird man repented and by then,d woman has 4kids. This man now asked the woman to return those children to their real father(s). The children were traumatized waking up one morning and the man u ve called dad for over 20yrs just rejected u all in d name of repentance. Christianity is hard oo
DeleteChristianity is hard!!!!
DeleteAnd the Spirit of God will convict a true Christian to do the Will of the Father...
Only one wife will God recognise, the first one. All the others are usurpers. It is difficult but it is the truth of the Word!!!
It is only death that annihilates the marital relationship so as long as the first wife lives, the other wives have to go...our convenience unfortunately doesn't matter here....
It's making heaven that counts! And to make heaven, these difficult decisions have to be made.
@ Chikito - yeah, Paul comment there was related to people who were married as unbelievers and later one converted and the other still a pagan ( 1 man and 1 woman ) so in actuality, he said, if the unbelieving spouse wants to leave, instead of you people quarrelling about church everyday or he/she being an impediment to your Christianity, you should let him/her go if he/ she wants to leave cos Christ called us to Peace..
DeleteAnd pls note - Paul doesn't say the Christian can remarry...nope! The unbeliever leaving doesn't remove the couple from the bound of marriage.
Reason why we should be careful who we yoke with in marriage, it's a mystery that God used to bind hearts and souls...and God's true design is for it to be really till death do you part!
Christianity has to wait oh...
ReplyDeleteWhere is he sending them to?he must marry all of them...that's the prize he has to pay for not letting his dick stay one place...
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DeleteI agree with you LE. Even though he has become a xstian, no where in the bible will you find any justification for him sending any of them away. In fact the bible says anyone who puts his wife away except on the grounds of adultery, makes her an adultress.
DeleteThe polygamy issue is something he went into in the days of his ignorance b4 he became a xstian. Now that he has accepted Christ, he owes those women and their children the duty of justice and equity.
Sending any away would be grossly unjust.
gbam
Deleteso after years of fuckery,he wants to send them away?
adighi eme ya eme!!
Hmmmm,this one pass me..o but the pastor is not being fair!what about his kids?.since he's born again it means old things ve passed away n everything becomes new.I think God has forgiven him n d pastor shudnt act like God.
DeleteIn the days of ignorance, God overlooked but now he commands everyone everywhere to repent...Act 17:30
DeleteDoing God's word is more important than human consideration of fairness...
He should settle them, show love to the children, get them to understand that he is doing it all because of his eternal soul...
If we give thought to our souls, we would take a hardstand when it comes to doing God's words
Well said
DeleteHe not only married two,but four!shows that even if he sends dem away,d first wife can't meet his needs!now dats btw.
DeleteDat pastor is a false prophet because only satan can be dat merciless.the God we serve is merciful and full of compassion!remember David,even when he killed someone and married the wife,after he repented,why didn't. God tell him to discard the wife?cos repentance covers all!sending 3women and kids to d streets for no just cause but being born again?ha!one sure thing that is bound to happen is that dose women and children will forever hate that god' that will be source of their pain.
Stells stop being emotional abt everything,see how it's so easy for u to say pursue dem.#mtceeew#u no dey try sometimes walahi.
There was a day i went to Lord's Chosen and something like this happened. The man was told to leave his other wife. So it is nothing new at all.
ReplyDeleteAll the same it is painful. That is why it is not good to become second fiddle.
The first wife is only by recognized as man's only wife. In the eyes of God he was never married to the rest.
DeleteHe can send them away and still be caring for them and his kids, taking care of their upbringing, stuff like that.
lol @do not spew trash here...hehehehe
ReplyDeletehere goes...
HIAN...
Jesus fix it...
Just negodu...
Oya com and arrest me...namsense!
You like trouble ! Lol
DeleteIt's not true abeg.the story is just a farce. I know of a deacon in a Methodist Church with 6 wives.
ReplyDelete'some' Deacon dem can fuck for africa.
Deletethose ones? Mtchewwww
Pls don't associate them with christiandom
All those pastors are evil jare. DAVID the man after God's own heart had more than a wife .same with Solomon and all and a God still spoke to them
DeleteWhat!
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DeleteSo an elder must be a man whose life is above reproach. He must be faithful to his wife. He must exercise self-control, live wisely, and have a good reputation. He must enjoy having guests in his home, and he must be able to teach. 1 Tim 3:2 NLT
As far as i'm concerned, polygamy is part of Christianity. Make nobody tell me sey na Jewish religion, cos we still follow the said Jews & their prophets in the old testament. So if those men of faith as mentioned in the bible & as we're taught to emulate in Sunday schools are polygamous, why should Ghanaman's case be any different???
ReplyDeleteAbraham, Isaac, Esau, Jacob, David, Solomon, etc. These amiable gentlemen were all polygamous & still managed to please God. So i'm sure i'll get by too.
Ghanaman signing out!!!
@ Ghanaman, God bless u, u took d wrd out of my mouth. At tyms wen I read d bible I gt confused on sme cretain issue's 1 of wch is wat we re discussing.
DeleteIs it nt d same God dat deal wth dese pple Ghanaman mentioned in d old testament dat also deal wth d so prophets in d new testament?. If God ws nt in support of polygamy den why didn't He kick against it den?. Or do u wnt 2 mke me blif dat God changes?.
God 4give me d more I read d bible d more I gt confused b'cus of sme contradictions lyk dese.
I can see all your mentors lined up but do you have the same relationship with God as they did?
DeleteAbi you conveniently forgot the place in your bible where Jesus said they were allowed them to do all that because of the hardness of their hearts.
DeleteAs New Testament believers, we are to marry just one wife. O-N-E. One
@ Mystique so u only believe in the New Testament but you pay tithe that was only mentioned in the old testament??
DeleteI wonder why your old testament has to be different from your new testament
DeleteWhich one be hardness of their hearts again na? Kai! We should just delete the Old Testament already kwanu. Mstcheeww! What if I want to have heart-hardness too? Abegi!
DeleteGhanaman signing out!
You have to understand that this is a whole different dispensation - the Christian dispensation....the period from the rending of the veil ( one that day when Christ hung on that Cross) everything changed!!!!
Deletethe Holy Spirit through Apostle Paul says concerning the old testament that the law was a shadow of things to come, he further says everything that was written was for our learning ( not for our practice)..Please take time to read the book of Hebrews...
The man should continue being manager to the four wives and children. Being born again does not mean his family should be divided.
ReplyDeleteInteresting.
ReplyDeleteThis is a tricky one, if they are all legally married to him.
ReplyDeleteHe should get accomodation for the other wives and set them up of they aren't working. They should stop playing wifey duties but he must be involved in the children's lives
Deletehe has already made the mistake by marrying all of them and having children with them it's not fair on any of them for him to send any away and keep any he should just stay with them all that's what I think God see his heart and knows it was something he did while he was an unbeliever by marrying one of them he's only going to sew d seed of hatred into d minds of the others let them all live together in peace
ReplyDeleteU don talk am finish. What's done is done. He can't shake his family off like a bad habit
DeleteThat is right,I don't know why any man will send the other wives away because of Christianity
DeleteI agree with you. Why send them away? Who will take care of them? Of the children?? Sending them away will be a very wrong move and I bet you God will not forgive him. Sometimes we have to look at the world with the eyes of love, eyes of God.
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my take: the man should continue his marriage with the 4 wives. He married them as a non christian.
ReplyDeleteHeard a story like this once, but in that case only the second wife had kids for the man, but he sent her away because the first wife was the only one recognised by God.
ReplyDeleteI hope he kept his kids though.
DeleteThe Pastor try well. He should should share the remaining 3 to the other bachelors in his congregation na. Mscheeew
ReplyDeleteLol if him sister na d 2nd wife him 4 give d man that kain instruction?
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ReplyDeleteWhere did the bible say one wife is recognized?
ReplyDeleteWhich page?
I want to show it to someone.
XOXO MYSTERY
Ask them oh.
DeleteHe said a man (one) will leave his father and mother (family) and stick (you can use the word that suites you) to his wife (one) and there two shall become ONE ! The marriage jesus attended in the bible was a one man and one wife marriage. And when God saw that adam was alone he created eve out of adam, why didn't he create eve and xoxo misery for adam? So tell me again, how didn't the bible encourage one man one wife?
DeleteNwa Amaka, see ur mouth. Ask them oh. I thought u said ur church is Dunamis. Does ur pastor Enenche preach polygamy? Oh I don forget say u never go church since u started your fuck fuck business
DeleteA man shall leave his father and mother and cleave to his WIFE!!! Bible didn't say wives madams. He that findeth a WIFE, findeth a good thing. Open ur eyes when reading ur bible.
Delete@ anon, yes am a dunamite. Not just a floor member but a leader. I have gone through some Bible training and I graduated with distinction. I yan rubbish does not mean I don't know the Bible or am a fool like u. Dr Enenche is my pastor not the author of the Bible. He is man like u and I not God.
Deletethe bible said only one wife. the other wives can be settled and they need to leave and find their level. why did they marry as 2nd , 3rd and 4th wives in the first place? dont they read their bibles? it is not divorce at all. it is only when a man sends away his 1st wife that it is termed divorce.
ReplyDeleteU are sick abeg.where Did the state only one wife.its just the whites tradition we are copying
DeleteWat if u r the 2nd or third, wil u be happy?
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ReplyDeleteLet's put it this way stella, since just one wife is recognized, it means the other three aren't. It means he was never married to them, so there is no divorce "biblically". But he has to take care of his children. They are his total responsibility. And he must engage the other women in profitable ventures if they aren't working. That is my submission.
ReplyDeleteSo wat wil now happen to the other women? God look @ ur heart.
DeleteOn d judgement day,dere won't be wives or husbands. It wil just be YOU.
ReplyDeleteAm tellin u jare.. abeg wat is done is done whc kind drive them..
DeleteYes dear @The General's wife you are very correct! Who told the pastor to ask the man to chase his wives? Is it God that spoke to him personally or he's just following his own principles. What happened to old things are past away. How would you know which of the wives God will recognise? As long as he paid their bride price he should continue with his wives. According to one BV's comment if the pastor's sister was the third or fourth wife he wouldn't have given such advice...Lol
DeleteYes dear @The General's wife you are very correct! Who told the pastor to ask the man to chase his wives? Is it God that spoke to him personally or he's just following his own principles. What happened to old things are past away. How would you know which of the wives God will recognise? As long as he paid their bride price he should continue with his wives. According to one BV's comment if the pastor's sister was the third or fourth wife he wouldn't have given such advice...Lol
Deleteiji ya
DeleteI have thought of this too at some point. Got stuck when I couldn't figure out the best solution not even when I sampled opinions of others.
ReplyDeleteWaiting to read reasonable inputs.
the Bible says one man one wife. now if as an unbeliever he has married other wives, bear in mind that even though they were married legally, according to the bible they have been commiting adultery and he has to put away those other wives. putting away other wives does not mean that he wont provide for these people again, he will cater to their needs however he ceases to be the womans husband i.e no carnal knowlege anymore. also the woman is now free to marry someone else.topics like these may seem insame to an ordinary man however when you have had an encounter with God and you actually seek to that which is right the grace of God will abound and it wont be such a big deal.
ReplyDeleteStop interpreting rubbish abeg
DeleteHow has the man bin committing adultery wen he got married to them traditionally
DeletePls anon 13:14 where is it in d bible that it shld b one man one wife? I want to be educated pls!
DeleteGbam!
Deletestar babe, there is no two ways about it, the bible must be obeyed.God says one man one wife and as far as he is concerned the first wife is the recognized authentic wife, all others are concubines even though he may married them legally.
ReplyDeleteif he send them away, they are free to marry if they so wish and the children are his and he must care for them
All this marriage issues, na here e end ooo cos no marriage, husband or wife in the Resurrection.The bible says it in matthew 22:30
So why did God not tell David and Solomon to discard all their wives. Our pastor in the Lord. Mtcheew
DeleteYes, as a born again christian,u are supposed to be married to one wife but if u had more than one than wife before u gave ur life to christ,the,u must do restitution.This means that every other woman aside from ur first wife must go.Those women belong to other men.The children must be taken care of by their father.Restitution is mearnt for those who are truly ready to obey and follow Christ.
ReplyDeleteLoud it biko.
DeleteThank you.
DeleteThe man keep his first wife and all his children. Then settle the remaining women financially monthly or whichever way they agree, but not have anything to do with them sexually.
ReplyDeleteA very dicey situation.
ReplyDeleteHe needs the wisdom of King Solomon on this issue.
So he should decide btw his church and his family.
I know my choice already.
In as much as religion is ambiguous and can be confusing at times, I think the pastor took a wrong direction in his bid to advice according to the holy book.
ReplyDeleteHe is married to the four women means he is married to them. The bible is all about 'the family'.
So God cannot be in support of throwing out part of your family.
So the unfortunate kids canbe homeless and fatherless?
So envy and strife can develop among the wives in an attempt to be the 'chosen wife' which might lead to loss of lives?
The best advice maybe for him to have a church wedding with one wife who will be officially recognised by the church but he should still keep his entire battalion of family!
4 wives each with kids? This is more than a case of an unbeliever, The man is too greedy jor!
THELMA ENEMUWE said...
ReplyDeleteA born again christian is expected to have one wife and vice versa,so the man is expected to put off his 2nd,3rd and 4th wives away and stay married to the 1st wife because she is the recognised and rightful wife in Gods presence,other wives are termed as "strange"women"who came to put asunder what God had joined together...
In christiandom,there's what is called ''RESTITUTION"and as such the man will have to compensate the other wives and their children by making sure they're well taken care of,he could rent houses for them and set them up in businesses,so its in the discretions of the wives to go marry elsewhere and marry if they choose to but the man must take care of his children by seeing to their welfare at all times...
*faithful BV enemuwe thelma*
1cor 7:10-24 has an explicit answer to this.
Delete1cor 7:10-24 has an explicit answer to this.
DeleteSending them away is called restitution....only d first wife is recognised..... I know of a woman DAT left her hubby cos she's d 2nd wife n she became born again....that's y its not gud to play d 2nd fiddle cos d born again issue might come up
ReplyDeleteTHELMA ENEMUWE said...
ReplyDeleteA born again christian is expected to have one wife and vice versa,so the man is expected to put off his 2nd,3rd and 4th wives away and stay married to the 1st wife because she is the recognised and rightful wife in Gods presence,other wives are termed as "strange"women"who came to put asunder what God had joined together...
In christiandom,there's what is called ''RESTITUTION"and as such the man will have to compensate the other wives and their children by making sure they're well taken care of,he could rent houses for them and set them up in businesses,so its in the discretions of the wives to go marry elsewhere and marry if they choose to but the man must take care of his children by seeing to their welfare at all times...
*faithful BV enemuwe thelma*
THELMA ENEMUWE said...
ReplyDeleteA born again christian is expected to have one wife and vice versa,so the man is expected to put off his 2nd,3rd and 4th wives away and stay married to the 1st wife because she is the recognised and rightful wife in Gods presence,other wives are termed as "strange"women"who came to put asunder what God had joined together...
In christiandom,there's what is called ''RESTITUTION"and as such the man will have to compensate the other wives and their children by making sure they're well taken care of,he could rent houses for them and set them up in businesses,so its in the discretions of the wives to go marry elsewhere and marry if they choose to but the man must take care of his children by seeing to their welfare at all times...
*faithful BV enemuwe thelma*
I think our pastors and preachers misinterpret the Bible to fit their own purposes. The Bible only said that a deacon or preacher should be a man of one wife. 1timothy3:2.
ReplyDeleteSo many people in the Bible married more than 1 wives. Now u will tell me it's in the old testament. Is the old testament not part of the Bible. When Jesus came he did not abolish any law of moses but to modify that is to upgrade.
In Deut21:15-17 said that if a man has two wives he should not be partial with anyone. He should not treat the one he loves better than the one he does not love ( unquote ).
1timothy2:12 says " let deacons each bevtge husband of one wife, managing their children and their own household well. Mark the word *DEACON * .
My argument is this; is the man a deacon? Is he a pastor. Some pastors are dwelling in sextual immorality and they are telling a man living with with family to divorce his three wives and live with just one. Is divorce not a sin.
Church goers be wise ur pastor is not God. Read ur Bible and understand it.
God bless u for this statement
DeleteThank you my sister
DeleteU just nailed it Nwa Amaka!
DeleteI'm impressed...*shinesteeth*
Hello Nwa Amaka, The book of Deutetronomy21:15-17 did not talk about the women but the children.it says that the man should treat the children right and give the first son double portion of his inheritance whether the first son belongs to the loved wife or the hated,(the first or the second wife)the children are his and he must take care of them.Christianity is all about Chirst and Christ preaches one man one wife let no man put asunder.In the beginning,God made them male and female.Adam and Eve Not Adam and Eves.If u love me,u will keep my commandment says Christ.RESTITUTION is important as a born again Christian.I am not talking of bread and butter christianty oh.
Deletenwa amaka
Deleteso u sabi bible wella with all dis ur sexcapades gists?
Is it your pastor you're doing restitution for?" Or your personal salvation. ??.smh.
DeleteAnd u just twisted d bible 2 fit into ur own purpose. Deut 21:15-17 only talked about d man treating d children of d hated wife fairly. He should not be partial 2 d children of d hated wife, especially d firstborn son.
DeletePls practice wat u preach and don't be a hypocrite!
Mc Slimz are you wife no 2 or 3? Cos this matter pepper u die.
DeleteIt's very tough in here, he should keep all of them since he is already married to them,he has commited the sin already and he has been forgiven. So he should just take care of them all, and be upright. Shikenan
ReplyDeleteThis is part of restitution,it is bad but you have to pick the one u paid her bride price and let the others go.
ReplyDeleteHmmm! Quite a tough one but most pastors sees the first wife and her children as the main family. I don't really know the criteria for this but its also claimed that the bible says a man shouldn't forsake the wife of his youth which in this case, is the first wife.
ReplyDeleteI am only commenting because you said you are serious...
ReplyDeleteThe bible states that "the time of ignorance, GOD overlooked, but now HE commands all men everywhere to repent". So what was done in the past is gone and what GOD looks at is the HEART. I Sam 16:7. The man will and must continue to provide and care for his household, he does not need to divorce or send away any wife. David had more than one wife when GOD said that David is a man after "MY HEART".
However, as a polygamist, the man can not be a Bishop as dictated in the book of Timothy.
Having laid the record straight (in my opinion), let me now ask "how many of us will want our mothers thrown out and not cared for because they were second or third wives? We are always thinking of the sex part, there is more to marriage than sex.
Correct!!!
Deletei don't think the man should put away is his wives beside he wasn't a Christian at the beginning he converted with his family. I'm a catholic i know few pple that wasn't a Christian but when they converted they were allowed to stay with their family u don't break a home u bring them together to Christ. taking few bible example 1. when Jesus was in the temple they told him that his mother and brothers are looking for but he said in quote " who are my brothers and mother but those who obey my commandment and do my word. 2. when they gentiles repent and receive Christ was save the pple was angry blcos to them they are nt circumcised but paul told them that they are new creature in Christ Jesus. with this and more example if u search through ur bible u will understand alot are involved so the pastor should allow the man abeg. Beside will u tell a full grown man that was nt circumcised to come and under go circumcision blcos he is now a Christian? if not he wont go to heaven! pls all these pastor should be very careful blcos one bad teacher is worst than BOKO HARAM! i rest my case.
ReplyDeleteAs for some SDK pple that ar busy correcting English instead of learning from it. Lol! please feel free to correct me while reading and I'm nt an English student!
Now this is confusing. But I think how he married them will play a role in determining his decision. Since he hasn't been a christian it means he never had a church wedding. So I think he'll just pick maybe the first and wed her in the church. He also couldn't have married them all in the court except traditionally so returning of bride price would have to be the case though I'm not very sure of its implications. Hopefully other bvs would know.
ReplyDeleteThis case is like that of Oba Tejuosho,he has three wives and I believe he became a born again Christian later in life. He still kept his 3wives and they all practice Christianity together. All three follow him for functions together wearing same attire.
ReplyDeleteI believe that is how a wise man should live. I feel its wrong to send remaining two wives away. Afterall you married all 3 and they bore you kids. There should be exemptions to some rules. If he takes a 4th wife then that is wrong. But he should keep those he already married.
He can't send them away, he has to live with them and cater for them equally.
ReplyDeleteIf this kind of situation truly arises, I think d man shud send in his chronicles then we can advise him accorrdinly. As for now, I gat nothing to say cos even knights in d catholic church are married to two wives n som hv concubines...na Baba God go judge all of dem.
ReplyDeleteExcept he didn't pay their dowries and married them legally. But if he did he should still keep them after being born again. God's ways are not our ways.
ReplyDeleteAccording to the bible, only one wife is recognized, which is the first wife. In a situation whereby she is no longer with the man or have remarried, the eldest wife will be his only resort. He is to leave the other wife and allow them to remarry. He is also to take full responsibility of all the children the wives bore him. In a situation whereby the other wives are not buoyant enough to get a house of their own, he can either build them a house as a pay off, or rent an apartment and make payment of not less than two year to enable them put there life together and be able to move on.
ReplyDeleteAlso, a little amount to start life with also with go a long way if they are not working before.
My neighbours was in this mess last three years.
ReplyDeleteWhat they did is he retained the first wife, All the children, and settle the remaing 2 wives and let them go and start new life.
He has to keep his first wife because that is the one recognized, any woman that comes after the first wife is an intruder. He must take care of all his children though . This will teach ladies not to marry a man that is already married. #firstwivesclub. #teamfirstwives.
ReplyDeleteI like u already. I hate to see a man marry more than 1 wife. Women are their own enemies. Why marry a man who has s wife already? Majority do it because of the money but what matters at the end is how we will account for everything we do here on earth on judgment day. I am so Team 1 man, 1 woman.
DeleteHe has to choose one that he is truly legally married to and send d others away, all the children should be wit him and still need to support the others but no strage attach.
ReplyDeleteHe has no right to send those women away. In my Church wat happens s dat such men are not given any post to do in d church n no responsibility s asign to him n only d first wife s recognized n can b given post or responsibility. Where does he want d oda women to go. Was it dere fault??????
ReplyDeleteYes it was "dere" fault...they "married" an already married man. God wrote the rules. You either accept them or you don't. Christianity is a choice.
DeleteNo ohh, it is my fault. Like they didn't know the man was already married. Husband snatcher like u.
DeleteHe has no right to send those women away. In my Church wat happens s dat such men are not given any post to do in d church n no responsibility s asign to him n only d first wife s recognized n can b given post or responsibility. Where does he want d oda women to go. Was it dere fault??????
ReplyDeleteBut won't the other wives feel bad when just the first wife is recognized in church?
DeleteGod said my ways are not your ways. God already knows about the 4 wives before the man got bornagain, and agreed to accept him that way. He should keep his family and abide in the word of God which is based on holiness and up rightness.
ReplyDeleteThe pastor is wrong jare
ReplyDeleteThe man married the 4 women when he was an unbeliever, now that he is born again, he still have to be married to them because God hates divorce and also the bible says 'if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature, old things have passed away, that means his old nature has been renewed in Christ. God is not going to keep records of his mistake of marrying 4 wives. Jesus said he came for the lost to be found, he died for people like this man to be saved. Paul admonished in the bible for one man one wife so that there will be orderliness in the church because on judgement day, it's not going to be by family but per individual. My take though, sorry for the epistle
ReplyDeleteEven after getting born again he can still keep his wives. He can't send dem away.
ReplyDeleteThe man married the 4 women when he was an unbeliever, now that he is born again, he still have to be married to them because God hates divorce and also the bible says 'if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature, old things have passed away, that means his old nature has been renewed in Christ. God is not going to keep records of his mistake of marrying 4 wives. Jesus said he came for the lost to be found, he died for people like this man to be saved. Paul admonished in the bible for one man one wife so that there will be orderliness in the church because on judgement day, it's not going to be by family but per individual. My take though, sorry for the epistle
ReplyDeletei doubt the last three a recognised by God. They are just gbokogbokos. He should prolly consecrate his life to God and leave all four. And support his kids financially
ReplyDeleteFrom comments I've read here so far, it is clear many do not understand Christianity, what Jesus really came to earth for, the extent of God's love and the dispensation of grace in which we now live in.
ReplyDeleteI also believe that the pastor who asked the man to put away his other wives does not understand the scripture either.
This is no doubt a difficult situation, taking into account the position of The Church on marriage, (one man, one woman)and divorce (God hates it), and I do not intend in any way to make light of this matter.
The salvation that Christ gives is not one that is gotten through works or human efforts. It is purely an exclusive preserve of God. It is a gift. It is called the gift of salvation. Salvation is a function of grace and not your effort to be good or correct in the eyes of people or even before God.
The same One who gives salvation is the same One who said in John 6:37 - All that the Father gives me shall come to me; and him that comes to me I will in not cast out.
If any of you can, please see Revelation 22:17, Luke 19:10, Romans 3:23 and several other scriptures.
Jesus asks us to come to him the way we are. He understands that we've messed up countless times. We may have done certain things that can't be undone such that we have to live the rest of our lives with it consequences.
The four women are his wives. And I tell you that God recognises them as his such. Because this were actions carried out in ignorance while under the bondage of the devil.
God's grace is sufficient for him. And he must continue to play the role of husband to them all.
Do we continue in sin because grace abound? NO! GOD FORBID.
The man will do wrong if, after coming into the light, goes out to pick another wife for himself. God has overlooked all of his actions in the days of ignorance, but from now on he will be held accountable for all his actions.
My two cents.
You are right!
DeleteYou deserve a hug and a kiss for this. You couldn't have hit the nail any harder on the head.
DeleteYes that's true... though I have forgotten the actual name for it.
ReplyDeleteIt actual works in favour of faith. Once you convert into Christianity, you will be asked to pick one wife and send others away. I will get the name and get back to you.
Just pick one and tell the rest to go but note that it won't be easy at all.
So what if the just the third wife that gave birth but her attitude sucks?
DeleteOur neighbor Mr. O., did. He wedded one leaving the other one. He didn't send the other woman out tho' Even one of d daughters of d scorned woman threatened to disrupt d wedding that contrary to what ppl thought, her mum was actually d first wife n not d 2nd
ReplyDeleteYes that's true... though I have forgotten the actual name for it.
ReplyDeleteIt actual works in favour of faith. Once you convert into Christianity, you will be asked to pick one wife and send others away. It is called "Pauline Privileges". Try and research on it that will help you understand what you are doing.
Just pick one and tell the rest to go but note that it won't be easy at all.
The man restitutes by making arrangement for his other wives and children, making them comfortable and well catered for, he also has to keep in touch the only thing is he wont be sleeping with the women any longer.he would stick with only his first wife.
ReplyDeleteThis is a tricky one..... I'm not very clear on God's take on this so I'd rather not mislead anyone.
ReplyDeleteYes that's true... though I have forgotten the actual name for it.
ReplyDeleteIt actual works in favour of faith. Once you convert into Christianity, you will be asked to pick one wife and send others away. It is called "Pauline Privileges". Try and research on it that will help you understand what you are doing.
Just pick one and tell the rest to go but note that it won't be easy at all.
God help us
ReplyDeleteAfter restitution, the man is expected to send the women away so they can have their individual partners but he must still take care of the kids. Stella, this is not new nau. It happens everyday. Even the woman's conscience will tell her she's just the second member if her conscience is still alive. Same happens to returning certificate when u cheated during exams. If the board pardons u, den u r lucky. My friend's mum returned her BSc and Masters and had to write to Lagos state government about it. She was forgiven both by the school and the state but she was retired b4 her due time and paid off. It might not be easy but that is the right way and yes, it's still happening today
ReplyDeleteDeut 21:15-17, Exo 21:10. I think you should read the bible to get better understanding of the matter on ground. Yes, it is written one man one wife. But we fail to neglect that fact that if by some reason, a man has more than one wife, he must treat them equally which is almost impossible to do because of the nature of man.
ReplyDeleteAs for the matter on ground, he cant chase any of them because he is responsible for them. There is really nothing wrong with being with them, as long as he treats them right equally. They are his cross now......
Jokes! Are you a MusChris?
DeleteWhile scripture is not specific as regards this case, when one gives his life to Christ, it is expected that old things pass away and all things become new (2 Cor5:17). Just like the case of Zacchaeus (Lk 19:8), you might be expected to restitute.
ReplyDeleteFor the man with 4 wives, polygamy was not the original plan of God (Matt 19:5) says 'and the two shall be one flesh'; not 5 become one flesh. I would suggest he makes provision for the other 3 women (without sexual relations)and their children and keep to his original wife. Any woman that came after the first wife is a strange woman. However, you cannot punish the children for the sins of the parents; thats why he must make provision for the children.
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ReplyDeleteHian! Brb
1 Corinthians 7:17
ReplyDeleteEach of you should continue to live in whatever situation the Lord has placed you, and remain as you were when God first called you. This is my rule for all the churches NLT
Stella, the scripture contains God's mind in every matter of life. NONE OF THE WIVES SHOULD BE SENT AWAY; THIS IS THE GOOD WILL OF GOD (ROM. 12:1-3) JUST LIKE HE ALLOWED POLYGAMY IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. IN THE NEW TESTAMENT; YES IT IS ONE MAN ONE WIFE BUT IN THE SITUATION YOU PRESENTED, THE BELIEVER CAN RETAIN THOSE LADIES HE MARRIED BEFORE HE BELIEVED. BUT HE IS NOT TO HOLD ANY POST OF LEADERSHIP IN THE CHURCH (1 Timothy 3:2).
SHEBI dAVID THE MAN AFTER GODS HEART HAD MANY WIVES N CONCUBINES ABI, PLEASE IF HE SHULDNT DIVORCE DEM INSTEAD TREAT DEM EQUALLY. WHICH KIN PASTOR ADVICE BE THIS
ReplyDeleteSome pastors with their advice. Where will he send d other 3, restitution is good after being born again but in some cases u have to be very sure of what God wants u to do before taking any action.
ReplyDeleteDear Stella, Lets look this from an unbiased mind. In the first place, the Bible does not condemn polygamy. What the Bible is against is adultery. If the Bible condemned Polygamy, why did men like Abraham, David, Solomon, Elkanar and the host of them, marry more than one wive? There is no place where in the Bible it is written One man, one wife. whoever has it should produce it. What the Bible said in the book of 1st Timothy 3 concerning a Bishop is that he should be a husband to one wife. Some of our pastors just preach whatever it is that suits them, to put fear in their adherents and then take their money.
ReplyDeleteThat man cannot put away his wives just because one pastor said so. Who is he sending them to? What will they be doing out there? Whose name will they bear? The person that said he should put out his other 3 wives, what if one of them happens to be his sister? There is no such law. We must desist to speak out of the pages of the Bible.
The only thing the pastor can do is to advice those men who have the intention of having more than one wife, to be sure they can carry the burden in it. Both spiritual, psychological, emotional, financial and physical. And not to lie in the name of the Bible.
Exactly.
ReplyDelete#MBG In SDK's B
First wife will stay with him in the house while he has to rent apartment for the remaining ones in different locations and he will be taking care of them from afar.
ReplyDeletePlease the new testament recognizes one man one wife,the mistake has been made,he needs to rent a different apartment for the other wife and stick to the first wife,she is the only recognized wife in d bible,dat is if she was married both legally and traditionally o,not nylon bag marriage,he needs to provide for the other wives until they find their feet and move on but the children are supposed to go with wife,cos they may be the man's offspring but they belong to d woman now.
ReplyDeleteMy Two Cents
Hmm. ..deep things.
ReplyDeleteIt's true that it's only the first marriage that is recognised before God.i think the man should separate(not divorce) from the other wives but keep the children and if the wives insist on taking the children, he should accept their decision but continue to provide their needs .It's a sad story tho.
Hmm. ..deep things.
ReplyDeleteIt's true that it's only the first marriage that is recognised before God.i think the man should separate(not divorce) from the other wives but keep the children and if the wives insist on taking the children, he should accept their decision but continue to provide their needs .It's a sad story tho.