OMG...he is here again with another controversial piece ....Preachers aint gonna like this one bit!
He says....
"As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore and repent. – Revelation 3:19.
Much of the church today is living a lie. Many of you have been told continuously that you are saved and headed for heaven. Nothing could be farther from the
truth. Many of you are heading directly to hell. The systemised lying that is going on in the church has deceived the pastors and the people alike. It is a case of the blind leading the blind. You all need to pray – fervently because many of you are “lost”. No matter what you call me, no matter how you view this issue, no matter what position you have, no matter what church you attend, you have to admit that something is wrong with the church.
Below are eight facts why the church is leading you straight to hell:
There is almost no evidence whatsoever that the early church had their “services” on a Sunday. They gathered together ‘from house to house’ virtually every day! People did not dress up and “go to church.” There were no denominations or separate groups with different ‘labels.’ They lived their lives together – And the apostles in Jerusalem preached everyday at a huge open-air gathering, not “hidden away” inside four walls. Church buildings do not exist in the Bible. They were invented around 200-300 AD, when the church was in serious decline. Church buildings are anti-New Testament, and they bring with them a host of problems and traditions. It was when the church fell into the hands of Rome that this concept of the “cathedral” took over. And today, we are still spending millions building these beautiful monuments while the worshippers are starving.
The words “prosper” or ‘prosperity’ were NEVER used by Jesus at all – and only mentioned a few times in the entire New Testament. Yet our greedy pastors have built kingdoms upon them. The words – “sell what you have and give to the poor” and “deceitfulness of riches” and “you cannot serve God and mammon” and “woe to you that are rich” were DEFINITELY used by Jesus and the apostles, but you don’t hear them preached by your pastors, do you?
Tithing is not a New Testament practice at all. And it is being shamefully abused by today’s preachers. In the Old Testament, tithing was only applicable to Jews and to the land of Israel and that was at a time when a great number of them lived in Babylon, Ammon, Moab, Egypt and Syria.
As a result of that, the land they occupied became tithe-able lands. Tithes were not acceptable from Gentiles’ lands. So my brothers and sisters, you need to ask your pastor why he is collecting tithes here in Nigeria. Also, the only people authorised to receive tithes were the Levites – (Hebrews 7:5). If your pastor is collecting tithe from you, ask him if he’s from the tribe of Levi. Even Jesus who was a Jew couldn’t collect tithes because he wasn’t from the tribe of Levi but from that of Judah. And if your pastor insists that being a worker in the lord’s vineyard qualifies him as a Levite, please remind him that Levites had no land and did not own properties.
The Jesus of today’s church is a “Father Christmas,” a Jesus who exists mainly for our own “happiness;” a Father Christmas who wants to rain down continual blessings upon us; a Jesus of grace and mercy without judgement, righteousness or truth. Our gross misrepresentation of who Jesus really is, is one of the most serious offences of today’s church. We worship a “plastic” Jesus – one that we have painted in our own image. What an offence to God.
What we have today are churches that are so loose that they excuse any sin or misconduct, including homosexuality and adultery. Aren’t we supposed to accept only the truth of God’s word? But instead, we have opted for a modern church that is socially based, smooth and sophisticated, and presented like a Nollywood movie with men and women of ogboni fraternity dressed in their occultic regalia occupying special seats during services. Something is wrong!
What happened to the strong calls for repentance that brought thousands down to the altar to repent and ask Jesus Christ to save their souls? This is the litmus test for Christianity; it is the essence of the Cross; it is the great commission that Jesus commanded us with. If your church is not winning souls, then it is like a barren woman, and it is a shame. Something is wrong!
What happened to the outpouring of the Holy Ghost? Do we even know what it means anymore to feel the presence of the Spirit of God descend on a service and fill up the room with holiness? Or we just love that party atmosphere and excitement when the choir plays a boogie-down song? Or we love to scream “ride on pastor” in the excitement we get when some charismatic preacher works the crowd? It’s been so long we’ve felt the presence of the Holy Spirit that we don’t know what it is anymore. Something is definitely wrong!
Lots of pastors are aware that there is something very wrong with the church today. They know there is little ‘fear of the Lord.’ They know there is no deep repentance or deep moving of the Holy Spirit.
They know that it is just the same old “game” being played every week. A lot of them are very aware of this, but they will not do anything about it. They will not rock the boat. And they will destroy anyone who comes along trying to do something. They do not want any reforms. There is too much to lose. They have their careers and their “kingdoms” at stake. This is the truth of the matter. Most of you are worshippers of your pastors and not God. Many of you are hell bound. So pray my brothers and sisters. Pray for your souls. Let me stop here and leave room for you to call me names. But do remember that the church is leading you to hell – not me!"
*Culled from Punch
Wow!!!....I am gobsmacked!
Hmm, lemme jes read comments today, this stuff is over my head.
ReplyDeleteA lot of what he's said is actually true. Candidly, these are known facts (to a lot of people), but no one wants to be seen as the devil "rocking the boat".
DeleteI'm sure many would come out chastising him, but for those that can think deeply (not those that just wanna go with the flow), he isn't far from the truth.
Click my name for all your celebration cakes and cupcakes, cheers
There's a church I think I can't attend. The way they preach prosperity ehn...my church preaches salvation like say tomorrow no dey and the preach prosperity too.
DeleteKai kai kai, to a large extent this guy has spoken well but puleeeeaasse, my life has been molded in such a way that I'm finding it difficult to take in d tithing aspect. Nah!
DeleteEtcetera, try next time ok? My church mind remains unchanged. Hehehe!
I do not agree with the entire piece but I am loving a whole lot of his highlights.
DeleteTruly a lot of churches cum pastors are clear example of Blind leading blind
E.g pastor yellow yellow. Leading his gullible followers to hell afterall according to him "God is a game, people are frustrated. Key in into their frustrations cos they are already gullible" that's the saying of pastor yellow yellow.
The other one go jerry curl hair sotey activator became unreasonaby expensive. Changing women like his boxers with the xcuse of they are possessed hence end of marriage/rrelationshhip. Plus many many atrocities that I dont have energy to type
U talk now, e go use English scatter your head and dictionary may be far from you.
The other one nko? Part and parcel of the reasons why activators and jerry curl gels won't come any cheaper and yet he will keep making 'Kings of 419 and all of those Fred ajidua's boys deacons in his church. All follow for God's apostles. Issorait!
What about the one that keeps shouting "emmanuel" ? To that one, everyone is possessed and the demon must come out. Pastor exorsism.
You talk now, LE will come after me.
All those running from pastors to woli to solve their problems, they are not God.
Get on your fucking knees and pray!
God hears all, he sees all.
He said ask and you shall receive.
Seek and you shall find. Turn to your bible , open the pages of Mathew and read more...
God's promises are endless to those who come to him with a clean heart
To those warming up to come and build hut under my comment shouting BLOGLORD hypocrite, blasphemy. Thou shall not judge.
Taaaa!
Did I offend you with my opinion? You should hear the ones I kept to myself.
And hey! You don't have to like it, it's not your facebook status.
Where is Miss Mae and AmmyBecky????
DeleteAbi them Don shit for church use bible clean nyash?
I so agree with him and if you watch "The Preachers of LA" you will know that most of these Pastors are truly leading their congregation to hell.
DeleteThe "Move of the Spirit" part amongst others is sooooooo on point.
DeleteI wonder where the Church of Christ lost it.
I go to church these days feeling like i'm in a village meeting or a concert of some sort. There's NOTHING spiritual going on there, absolutely NOTHING. Dunno if the Asaba social club spirit has taken over the. Asaba branch of my church or something! Itz really pathetic! The girls dress like Prostitutes, the men cheat on their wives openly, divorce rate is on the increase especially among Deacons who leave their wives for single sister..........
E.T.C I never liked your way of writing BUT thou has spoken well.
@ Bloggie, expect your cute behind to be whooped today. You obviously don't read the " touch not my anointed " part of your e-Bible. I know comments will so trail this post today but funny enough, majority of the comments so far tilt to reasonableness.
DeleteSo sso on point especially on the tithe issue. Infact Kisses 2 u ECT for this wonderful piece. Salvation is sure far from us. May God help us.
DeleteAs 4 what day of d week 2 worship most churches do weekly activities and in some if not most places in d new testament it was mentioned that upon d 1st day of d week d apostles gathered. Make I go search my bible I dey come.
I've had enough of this guy!!!
ReplyDeleteI agree with some things but Nothing can stop me from paying tithe. I have seen its wonder working power in my life so I don't even pay attention to msgs about not paying tithes.
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He speaks d truth....and that is d gospel truth.
DeleteThe only thing I can say I give God my tithe not the pastor because it's a biblical injunction.
DeleteThe moment you think of it as your pastor's you are in trouble.
God says pay tithes so that he would rebuke the devourer for our sakes.
cos I know the way heaven fights me when I dont pay tithe.
I have bad dreams and lose things worth even more than the tithe.
last year I sent some money to my brother and so ignored d tithe.i lost
over 200k. I rushed to pay the tithe as soon as I got money.
Besides I read the testimony of a man who said he went to heaven and non tithe payers go to hell cos that 10% isn't theirs.
It is God's.And you are owing God if you spend it.
MALACHI 3 VS 8 says " Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me.But ye say, wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and in offerings.
9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
* I meant 100k not 200.
DeleteDear Esther, you need the truth in your life. Stop listening to what man tell you and discover the truth for yourself
DeleteTo some extend, I agreed to what he said
ReplyDelete*Larry was here*
But it is true... Except the tithe part (dats basically me though cos it's been ingrained in me that I must pay my titbe) ... Every Sunday I wonder why the message is always about how to prosper and make money... I was telling my husband that I am looking for a church that would remind me to flee from my sinful ways cos the end is near... I just need reminding at how gruesome hell is so I can change... But I ain't getting it... By the way, I am a Redeemer... It is well...
ReplyDeleteI agree with yu in this one. All they talk about is prosperity & not salvation. So I decided to stick to my old time Catholic Church. I wld rather the devil than d angel.
DeleteMaybe just your redeem cos I'm yet to see a Redeem that preaches prosperity. Redeem is all about salvation
DeleteCome to SCOAN...
DeleteWe don't preach about wealth...
My daddy in The Lord does not live in a mansion...
He does not have a private jet...
He drives an average car...
All the offerings and tithes goes to charity...
These are the last days pls make the bible your friend and stop chasing men of God... Ectectra you need a hug for this write up.....
DeleteN here I am thinking redeem is better than my LFC! I am shocked to the bone marrow. May God help us all sha. The Prosperity talk makes me sick. I need Holiness and Purity messages not breakthrough and prosperity!
DeleteIt is indeed well my sister. I don't agree with d tithing part too, but I agree with d rest. He is saying d truth.
DeleteMfm preaches salvation and they don't joke with it.
DeleteEach branch of every church has a different pastor/she paid in charge. The redeemite I would advice should pray to GOD to guide her to where her spiritual nourishment is, it can fresh anointing on her present pastor branch, another church or even a different pastor.
DeleteCome to Heritage Assembly if you are in Lagos, XYZ plaza Ajah round about . The word is undiluted
DeleteOga parkwell. . If there are no churches what about the temple where Jesus sent those traders out.. .
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts exactly.
DeleteMiss Mae, shut ur dirty trap. That is y u keep waiting under Ikeja bridge @24yrs. Just shut up, slow human being.
DeleteMy dear are u a jew?.... that was a jewish temple.... they are still there today change ur religion and become a jew if thats the only thing u saw in d write up
Deletei cant read etcetrea write up, too long and not worth the stress just like charles novia.....
ReplyDeleteThis small write up is too long? But you can read a post with over 200 comments and real all the comments abi?
DeleteAnon, ds particular topic is worth d stress. Pls read it.
DeleteLaziness @ it's peak. If na one of Stella coded Amebo u will read n even crack ur brains out just 2 decipher.
DeleteAs much as I hate to say ds.....d dread lock wearing talkative has a point. Uld expect summaries from sumone whose name is e.t.c but no...not ds dude. Anyways donating large sums of money weekly to ur pastor is not a ssign ure going to heaven pls. Use that money to buy food n clothes for the poor pipu dat sit at the roadside in okoko and iyana iba n God wld consider u.. may God save us from the clutches of desperate n greedy pastors. Amen
ReplyDeleteBible is complete
DeleteTithe is not ours to chop
Give to GOD what is HIS
Malachi 3
Match everything anybody, pastor, teacher whoever says Against the WORD OF GOD (THE BIBLE)
Test every spirit not all are from GOD
Simon the sorcerer story and bar Jesus in the Bible make for fascinating reading to buttress the above point
a.k.a EDWIN CHINEDU AZUBUKO said...
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Leave church matter abeg, i was expecting he will talk on this tonto stupidity......
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I've not gone tru his write up but I think I agree wit him in totality! The preachers are leading d gullible christians to hell, they v left d word, dey v upturned it, diluted it, d words hv no power anymore, they preach heresy, "their belly is their god"
ReplyDeleteLmao...u haven't gone tru it but agreee...chai
Delete*Shouting* "Neighbors, come oooooo"
DeleteYou have not gone through his write up, but you already agree?
Wonderful!
Truth
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Well He's Spoken Well, To Some Extent I Agree With Him...
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.NOTE: Raise Your Words, Not Your Voice. It Is Rain That Grows Flowers, Not Thunder..
Truth
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What U said is True MyBroda, Church wut take anybody to Heaven, Repent and save ur soul.... Endtym Pastors everywhere
ReplyDeleteHe made strong points tho....
ReplyDeleteMakes lot of sense.. God bless you for the piece bro, if n only if they will listen.. the end shall tell( God knows the true worshippers). Tthe ogboni part got b cracked up.. Mama Micheal u allowed me to search that gobsmacked for dictionary, u do well ooo..
ReplyDeleteHe is absolutely right. Dats y I Love JEHOVAH WITNESS cos d dnt luk at ur status but disfollowship u wen u are wrong.
ReplyDeleteAfi disfollowship!!! No one I no go hear on ds blog.
DeleteThe truth is that most pastors don't preach repentance and the second coming of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.They tell u that God is merciful, if u sin,he will forgive u but they won't tell u that that same merciful God is also the God that consumes with fire. They won't tell u that u can live above sin,They won't tell u to live a holy and righteous life,they won't tell u that the wages of sin is death.That is why I like Pastor Kumuyi.He preaches the undiluted Word of God.
ReplyDeleteSo true !!! But these pastor worshippers would rather die than admit the truth cos it favours their illicit lifestyle as well . Like he rightfully said ur pastor is leading u straight to hell . Thank u.
ReplyDeleteNice one there. It's really a shame that churches of today, instead of leading ppl to the right path are instead leading ppl in the path of destruction.
ReplyDeleteYawns.....sneezing. ....yawns again. Good morning BVs
ReplyDeleteMy dear u ought to read through your bible before quoting d scriptures wrongly, He did mention"prosper".I wish above all things that you will prosper and be in good health even as ur soul prospers
ReplyDeleteHang on to just that one verse and neglect the other parts that talks of repentance, righteousness, humility, love, etc and u will make heaven.
DeleteIt was apostle Paul that wrote that not Jesus. The words Jesus spoke himself are different. So u study ur bible more.
DeleteReligion is one sensitive topic to discuss/argue. Most people who play into it are too emotionally skewed to input rationality into it. As long as "Papa" or " Daddy" said it, it's word on marble. It's true that if we despise the men of God, we despise God but viewing God's word through the eyes of MOGs makes MOGs infallible. Shouldn't we really test the spirit? Shouldn't we stack up the proclamations of MOGs against God's word to see if they will measure up? Questions that bend the will.
ReplyDeleteIn this part of the world where the basic needs of life have become luxuries, people must turn to religion for comfort. It's against this background that some pastors prey on the vulnerability and gullibility of members to feed their insatiable appetite.
I no go even talk put for this matter. Happy weekend all.
That is the buttomline, isn't it? Poverty!
DeleteKehinde, wat are u doing here. This isn't a sex topic na. Lol
DeleteAnd he reappears from his hiatus .
DeleteWelcome back .
who else is joining me to give praises ...kehnideake contributed to something not sex related..
Lolzzz
Did i just write dis?
DeleteWell done Doc.
As per a former Aspirant,iWont say nada
Super sensitive topic o jare.
Nice input Kehinde, happy weekend to you too bro.
Delete@ LuliGrace, na poverty dey cause am o. The super rich ones whet the appetites of Pastorpreneurs to appease their conscience. Giving therefore atones for their ill-gotten wealth.
Delete@Eka, no vex. I no know say you go notice. Ewinor happen again.
@ Gift, lol. You are not serious. I wasn't hibernating. Una no gree bring man n woman matter come na.
@ TGW, now you know we are telepathic. Lol.
@ Rose Flower, thanks. Bless you.
Gbam Kehinde!
DeleteVulnerability and gullibility of the church members is all the pastors need to "prosper"
Private jet. X6 etc
The other day "the bishop with the bling" that preaches word of life to aso rock was asking to see Jega during the elections. As what? Is Jega possessed that he wants to go deliver him? Or has the pastor become a politiician?
Make dem continue to deceive themselves and continue to wash the head of those who cannot clearly think.
Mtchewww
I just de vex for this pastor matter. Man of God, man of God. Yet so much evil in the land
@ Bloggie, religion matter dey make me para no be small. " My God is not a poor God" but your members' God nko?
DeleteNigeria is devilled with all sorts of evils. We top every statistics of backwardness despite the proliferation of churches.
@ bloglord they god of men. People should read their bible very well, church members are gullible. They're fast to quote malachi 3:10 pastors hide from members the fact that money was not acceptable as tithe. The tithe was a tenth of the seed and fruit of the land and of animals which ate of the land. Please read leviticus 27:30-32 Deu 14:22-28 Moreover, the only ppl authorised to receive tithes were the leverest (Hebrews 7:5) if your pastor is a "tithe collector" ask him if he happens to be a jewelry. Remind him that, even though a jaw,Jesus could not receive the tithe because he was not from the tribe of levidence but from that of Judah.therefore, if Jews no longer tithe because the levites are a losteoporosis tribe, how can Christian pastors collect tithes when we are not even Jewish, how much more lelites? # sHomi say so
Delete@ bloglord they're god of men, the only people allowed to collect tithes are levite so if your pastor is a tithe collector ask him if he happens to be a Jew. Remind him that, even though a Jew, Jesus could not receive the tithe because he was not from the tribe of levi but that of Judah. Therefore, if Jews no longer tithe because the levites are a lost tribe, how can Christian pastors collect tithes when we are not even Jewish, how much more levites? If Jewish rabbis, whose terms of reference remain the old testament no longer collect tithes, then pastors who insist Christian are under a new testament have no business doing so. #sHomi say so.
DeleteI went to a church in London called new wine and I met this demon filed , judgemental son of a bitch called michael *had to omit the title pastor *. And the way he judged the marital quibble bw I and my ex would ve made the devil himself cringe !!!.
ReplyDeleteLol...dis must hv hurt...
DeleteFirstly Mr writer should understand that tithing is a duty of a christian,kindly read Malachi 3v8 and that will give you more insight to your blind soul. We give our tithe to God and not pastors. Besides note that it is not a mandatory thing but we do it because we know the blessings attached to it but all you do is look at everything with your Physical eyes and not you spiritual eyes. May God open your spiritual eyes.
ReplyDeleteThere are alot of things that go on in the spiritual realm that your physical eyes cant see. you say churches keep building beautiful building but worshipers are suffering;oga maybe its your church o.. the church i go to ensures their worshipers are taken care of. Whatever the situation they will try to assist you.
Please my church (Winners) doesn't excuse sin and we win souls for the lord. I SINCERELY THINK ETCETERA IS ANGRY AT HIS CHURCH FOR THEIR DOCTRINES AND ALL, BIKO IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE CHURCH MOVE ON! DON'T BE SO MYOPIC TO THINK EVERY CHURCH IS LIKE YOUR CHURCH. PLEASE WRITE A LETTER TO YOUR CHURCH AND STOP GROUPING OTHER CHURCHES.
Ur church winners only preaches about prosperity and how to donate to d church to make money. Went there for 4 Sundays straight hoping to see a different message at a point. But no, I was disappointed for 4 good sundays. Don't think I'd be going back there anytime soon.
DeleteWinners members, take it easy with insults on my head. OK?
Baby girl, I attend winners too but to be honest, not all members are "ok" or well taken care of. A Lot of members are living in abject poverty, the church can only try, resources aren't enough to go round especially when zonal/cell pastors know how to chop belleful. Heaven on earth my sister...
DeleteWhy not just open your mind to understand what he is saying. By the way, I know winners who are suffering. Moreover, God's instruction was never for us to just help only members of our church. A true christian should spread love to everyone including pagans, Muslims, homosexuals and all the people we call sinners. Yes we rebuke their sinful ways but it shouldn't stop us from loving them.
DeleteSo you are saying there are no poor people in winners? Lol follow christ don't follow church winners my foot
DeleteMs Temi, I also attend LFC ( Winners) , E.T.C may have stated 10 points, some of them wrong, others are sooooooo true. You and I know some LFC pastors run their own show. Mind you I am not here to castigate them or rubbish anyone but inside of me is a deep hunger for revival in my local church!!! Canan land is great, I am not doubting the Call on Bishop's life but my oown branch no follow ra-ra.
DeleteMs Temi, y are u boiling over ETC's write up? Wether u accept it or not, he has made some valid points.
DeleteQuote one verse in d new testament that says we must continue 2 pay tithe. Jesus came and abolished most of this laws. Give as God as prospered u not compare urself 2 do so. Besides Hw many of us re really giving 1/10th of our earnings?
Deletedo this man realise time has change so he expect people to gather where and not in four walls I bet he was on drugs when he wrote this article that's by the way David ibiyeomie teach the word of God
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The thin is they all want money all of them that's just the bitter truth I see prophecies as calculated attempt to exploit only deeper life is preaching repentance from my point of view even redeem dey try mfm nice Catholic is also okay all others I don't know I can't say but I can't stand for them .
ReplyDeleteLife is tough already, don't make it worse with "unpunctuated" comments. Thank yo!
DeleteAs in eeh. Ike gwuu
DeleteI thought I gave that job to someone on this blog to do the punctuation my God.then piece your eyes with my nose ring whenever u see my comments coz I won't do that.
DeleteKudo's Etcetera..
ReplyDeleteEctetera please come take this kiss.......specially made for you..
ReplyDeleteMuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh
All they preach this days is money, how to make money n how to prosper forgetting the whole aim of the church which is to win mankind to God .
Church isn't going to save anyone
SALVATION is our core aim.
They preach about wealth cos it's what people want to hear...
DeleteNor be lie.
DeleteI agree with everything he's said except the part of tithing. Giving is greatly encouraged in the bible and we pay out tithes to God not because he wants our measly 10% but because he wants to see that we are not in anyway attached to material things. Because whatever you're very attached to is what becomes your god and He clearly states that He is a jealous God.
ReplyDeleteAlso when we give, we motivate God, we move Him. I once heard the fastes lt way to get our prayers and petitions answered is by giving. And as Dr Charles Stanley will say, you cannot outgive God and the more you give, the more you receive. You want to receive more? Then increase in your giving. They're clearly stated in the bible. God lives a cheerful giver.
So I agree with everything he's said, except the tithing part.
He is so right! He couldn't have said it any better. What happens to preaching repentance and love? Loving one's neighbour as you love yourself...that which is second greatest commandment with the first being loving God. Jesus told a rich man that the only way he can make heaven is giving up all he has and follow God. Today our preachers go after the riches more than God. They only recognise the wealthy and reserve the front seats for them, which is against the bible. They hammer on tithe like it's the only thing in the bible. Prosperity and miracles are all I hear in churches these days. Worst are the gullible people who swallow every single thing because that is what they rather hear. God help us.
ReplyDeleteI don't pay tithes, I've never paid tithe.
ReplyDeleteI hardly give offerings.
I rather give my money to the needy than pay it in church. Especially not when my Bishop has private jets.
No wonder your life is so miserable!
DeleteYou don't pay tithe
You hardly give offering
What do you even have as a person?
All you do is to live a fake life on blogs!
Change your ways!
You don't pay tithe,no problem.the devourer is on the way.
DeleteMy fellow anon. Judge not..........
DeleteI rather give my money to d needy dan pay tax, Gbam! Soo true
DeleteTithe*
DeleteI understand u honey but it's good to pay tithe and offerings see it as u giving to God
DeleteSpot on Jayem.
DeleteAnon 11:17 I agree with Jay, Jesus died for u and I so dat you can obey two top most commandmentswhich were, love God and love your neighbour.... Why did d rich man go to hell? Because he couldnt give to some1 that really needed it Lazarus, and am sure he always paid his tithe as well. Not saying that giving to the poor is more important than the church but believe it or not the poor and the sick in Nigeria need more financial assistance than all our pastors put together. Y are Nigerians still suffering irrespective of the numerous churches everywhere? Because of the lack of LOVE and UNITY in our churches, tribal disunity and esp. discrimminating the poor and needy. Do it in the memory of me not in the words of our various preachers.
DeleteTithe....people pls dig further and dnt be blindfolded. Wake up and have a critical thinkin. Is tithe really a must? Was God referring to ur monthly salary in Malachi?
DeleteIs the tithe supposed to be fruit and farm harvest meant to be shared in the church amongst memebers, during the service or the percent of ur salary to be taken to the pastors for their personal use or 'ministerialjet use?
I rest my case.
Tolu
Spot on!
ReplyDeleteGbam! Gbamer!! Gbamest!!!
ReplyDeleteIt's only God that knows the chosen and real pastors these days! Judgement day will be hot! O ga adi kpo kpo
I agree with etc. but religion is a very delicate subject and that is why I try not to discuss it because people get offensive about it. There are a lot of people that have questioned a lot of things going on in the church and because of this have stopped going to church, those who still believe have the right to do so, it is their right. But people have to start asking questions when something does not seem right or ring true. In Nigeria especially churches are no different from any other business.
ReplyDelete@ Anony 10.14am, I like your level of reasoning. Religion is such a delicate if not touchy a subject. The soul stirring messages one hears in church services that make one retrospect and be sober have been replaced with emotional offerings. The pious and conservative looks of Pastors have given way to the toga of pomposity as the man struts about on the pulpit exciting our base senses. In the euphoria of this show of excites, he deals the "giving" card and in that state of vulnerability, we empty our pockets to service his flamboyant lifestyle. Pastors now subscribe to hypnosis to further control the mind of members.
DeleteAnyone who attempts to question the new order of pastorpreneurship gets his/her voice drowned in the din of "judge not.."
We know that the things of God defy logic but didn't God give us find minds discern good and evil?
Preach on Broda Etce!!!
ReplyDeleteHe is very right!!!!
ReplyDeleteMost of us really have these so-called MOGs, papa and mama GOs, pastors, 'pastresses', priests, reverends, whatever fool us because of our ignorance and laziness. We have refused to learn by ourselves by reading the Word and letting the Spirit of God teach us all things. What with the way they LIE and say as a Christian you are not meant to suffer cuz Christ has nailed all of it to the cross and borne our suffering..... Lies from the pit of Hades!!!!
It is being a Christian, a truthful one, not a religious one that would make your light shine so bright for the devil to come with his temptations and it is your being well-established in the truth which is the Word that would make you defeat him but that he leaves doesn't mean he wouldn't come back to test by stealing your happiness and making you go through tormentous times. Meanwhile, God would let those things happen so that you can move from one level of faith to another.
Leaving all the work to your so-called pastor to teach at the pulpit and fill your head with his own(in most cases) bizarre interpretations of the Bible is why most of us are so lost.
Work on your own spirituality under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Love love your last line
DeleteAnother way to put it is work out your salvation with fear and trembling
As many that are led by the Spirit of GOD are the sons of GOD
He's saying the truth.
ReplyDeletePeople should follow their heart.
Salvation is by choice.
This guy is sick abeg! Yea....Some points are correct, but deres no way I'll accept the tithe part. If you feel it's not right for you to pay tithe, Jes pass nd stop trying to confuse nd convince pple....etcetera u look like an attention seeker, may the Holyspirit help you!!!
ReplyDeleteAny he is right about somethings, truth most people worship their pastors and it's just sad!
ReplyDeleteOther things he said I can't say he is right or wrong what I can tell you is when God gives us the spirit to interpret His words it becomes the truth....so my people seek God's wisdom not man! read the bible and let God interprets His words to You.
Spot on Etcetera!
ReplyDeleteDeeper search and reflection await writings like this not reflex shouting and abuse.
ReplyDeleteThe Bible said that the love of man will wax cold (look around the selfishness and meanness in the world today is an indicator).
This is a SELAH moment.
GOD please help me not to play church but be really connected to YOU, Amen
Everything he said is nothing but the truth...
ReplyDeleteBitter truth but dem pastors worshippers will soon come out and call him out. . .too many fake pastors but dey keep deceiving us with judge not ir do my prophet no arm hissssssssz
ReplyDeleteNigerian pastors using people s problem to manipulate them since 19 bc.In my church here all offerings and tithe are used in church planting all over the world .
DeleteOyinbo wey introduce Christianity to africa no get pastors wey dey see road like no tomorrow. ....naija pastors sabi pass who teach dem work .......
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DeleteHe's partially right and partially wrong .that's how the church I've been attending .they sent a new pastor to come head the church.this man on a particular Sunday was prating for the sick and those white problems .there was this man using a walker. He had an accident and you all know how it is ..This man went to meet the pastor for prayer .the pastor specifically told the church that this man was walking home that day with new bones .we were all screaming .after 2 seconds of praying and all. (Maybe the pastor was trying to follow the footstep of their overseer .Chris oyakhilome). The ushers were now holding the man away from using the Walker .this man was shaking eh
ReplyDeleteEven the pastor that wants him to walk with new bones didn't even spend up to a min praying for him .he had already left the man .I'm pretty sure the man was angry .sure he had faith because u all need to see how he was shaking without the Walker hoping that was his testimony .before u know it .he pushed the Usher away and jejely held his walker .still stayed in the front maybe waiting for the pastor to come back to pray for him .pastor didn't come back .the man went back to his sit later .I'm pretty sure he was disappointed because the pastor raised his hopes .the pastor didn't even talk about the man issue again. I was disappointed .why say something u couldn't do .on another hand .maybe he only deals with spiritual cases not physical ones .mtcheeew
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ReplyDeleteHe isn't far from the truth!
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DeleteCall me crazy, but I believe him. Thank you for speaking the harsh truth, Etcetera. I always look forward to your write-ups. It goes on to show we still have some focused Nigerians with their heads screwed right.
ReplyDeletethis guy thinks deep like me, the only time some churches u attend will call you is when you failed to pay tithe for a particular month without even asking you how you are faring, that's so wrong, one reason I envy prohet TB josuah. He doesn't accept tithes and cash giftts Frrom thee poor, God help us all, Nigerians are hypocritically religious
ReplyDeleteWell....I support him on this, many of our so called popular pastors Do not preach the gospel the way they should, they are just particular about numbers.
ReplyDeleteOnly few members are interested in hearing God's undiluted words, the ones not interested want to go to a church where the service is groovy, where the pastor mostly preach on prosperity and how to make money, don't get me wrong, I didn't say there is anything wrong in doing this. All I am saying is our pastors need to get back to being God's mouthpiece.
You will see a known church member very well known to be a 419 coming to church to pay his tithe and a pastor praying for such a member and you wonder why our society is so corrupt?
Pastors should learn to lead their members in the way of the Lord and always preach the truth no matter what it takes them.
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Basically the truth.
ReplyDeleteEtc I love the 'no holds bar' way you write. But your views on Sunday worshipping, tithes, prosperity and church building is wrong in this write-up is jaundiced in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteIf you had done your research well, you would have known that from the day Jesus resurrected (first day of the week: Sunday) the apostles met every first day of the week, it might not have been back to back, but each time they came together from resurrection to Pentecost was always on the fist day of the week (Sundays). That is where the Sunday worship took its roots.
The Holy spirit you talked about would not have come on the apostles if they were scattered in all of Judea, that tells us that when we gather in oneness, unity of purpose, love and harmony the presence of God will surely abide.
Brother, you don't gather under a tree, but in an enclosed space, logically to shield you from sun and rain, hence a building and one that can be identified and easily accessible to all. And because our God is worthy, judging by the schematics He gave Moses for building the Ark of covenants, it's only sensible and obedient to build Him a 'cathedral'.
As for tithing, why you think it's only the Jews that should pay tithe is because in the old testament and before Jesus was born, the Jews had the exclusivity of being the descendants of Abraham (remember Abraham payed tithe to Melchizedech, pardon my spelling), now having been grafted into the family of Abraham by Christ (also remember the song Abraham's blessings are mine...) it's required that we obey the principles of our new lineage, i.e. for us to enjoy the blessing, we should also obey the law.
As for prosperity, 'the earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof', since we're joint heirs with Christ, we need to enjoy the inheritance of our father both here on earth and in heaven.
The thing you be preaching is , just like Jesus said in matt.23:23 we should not do one at the detriment of the other.
N.B this one you based your arguments on the new testament albeit prejudiced, remember Jesus did not come to abolish the law, rather to fulfill it. The rest of your points, I agree with.
Thanks for sharing.
Pastors fail to mention that father Abraham only tithed once in his life time. When he did, he did not even tithe his own money: he tithed the spoils of ear. He gave ten percent of the land plunder he took when he rescued lot to Melchisedec, king of Salem. But then he did not even keep the rest but returned it ( all ninety percent) to the King of Sodom. Malachi 3:10 he does not say, that there may be money in my house. The food was used to feed the levites, the poor, widows orphans and strangers. How many pastors feed the poor in churches today? #sHomi say so.
DeleteFor once i kinda agree with this dick. I still remember how i locked myself indoors for weeks cos a pastor told me that a stray bullet was going to hit me if i go out.
ReplyDeleteI believe somuch in God and his servants,but alot of them are nolonger speaking from God,but all the same do not speak bad of a man of God,leave them and the God that called them to judge them on the last day.
I would have just told d pastor, back to sender!
DeleteAren't u a cunt? Ewu ohia rere ere
DeleteInasmuch as i agree with some points he made, i have to say that this dude talks waaay toooo much though! Ahn-ahn! Must he have something to say about everything?
ReplyDeleteThe point i agree with up there is that most church-goers worship their pastors and GOs more than they worship God. Gosh, It's so annoying! 'My daddy in the Lord', 'my papa in the Lord' ana afio! The way they revere these men is something to pity. And the men of God don't caution them either.
Etcetera,I can see some truth to what he was saying.
ReplyDeleteDanny fisiye, Hmmmmm!! The rate at which your David Ibieyomie is acquiring properties in port harcourt is alarming. Having school that his own members can't afford to send their kids!! Let us all be wise o!!
ReplyDeleteUncle etcetera u got it totally wrong with dis piece anyway we are all entitled to our opinion. But pls make sure wateva u write can be backed up cos every statement u made here are false. The church which can also be calld d temple or house of God was in d bible(where zecheriahwas given d vision concernin his son john d baptist,d gate where Peter said he didnt have gold or silver is calld d temple or church) u said sumfin about tithe my dear ananias nd saphira didn't pay tithe read what happend anyway like I said u are entitled to ur opinion so make I nor argue wif u
ReplyDeleteThank you very much
ReplyDeleteEtcetera .You said the honest truth about pastors and men who are suppose to serve God but will our citizens listen. Those you preach to will come here to curse you out as they hate people saying the honest truth, they will curse you out and tell you "Touch not the anointed" wondering who anointed those men.
We are truly being deceived by men of gods who are meant to lead by example as christ did but are not. Due to ignorance,poverty,quick fix to solutions, no work but expect miracle from citizens we continue to be fooled. No one dare criticise church leaders as all are semi god, what a shame. British and others who brought christianity hardly go to church visit most white churches abroad you only see old men and women or few worshippers and those countries who do not visit pastors or worship in big churches have honest people than us who sleep daily in churches. I ask myself what do we really worship when we have no good heart only to kill brothers and sisters.
Pastors build big churches and universities but the poor who contributed the funding can't afford to send their kids to their universities.
The issue of tithing nowadays i do it directly to individuals no church tithe i only do offerings in church. if you want to pay your tithes to impact someone directly forget tithing in churches do it in these blog or go to the street and impact someones live and see your blessing come directly to you. Because those money/ envelope you drop in churches are used to purchase private jets,yachts,cars fly first class and also build more universities to enrich themselves.
Our fundamental problem in Nigeria are two things religion and tribe, pastors have taken advantage of citizens poor situation to enrich themselves. None talk about salvation only prosperity, breakthroughs,riches,anointing.
Look at the past election and how pastors lied and supported a leader openly while casting and judging the other candidate as muslim even when they knew current administration was performing poorly. High flyers-pastors (Daddies & GO's and others) have gone into silent mood filled with election surprises none saw the masses demand for change coming even with their miracles it all happened like Hollywood movie to them. Is time to ask your selves questions about your so called religious leaders and the worship of men of gods in the name of Christianity, men who refused to stand for the poor masses but rather stand for their own selfish interest. I believe in praying my way out and not depend on any MAN.
Government should start Taxing both mosques and Churches, tax received will be used to help the poor and vulnerable.
Black people worship God more but check out all black nations in the world like Haiti,Brazil, Dominican,Africa countries all are in abject poverty,war,famine,corruption. I ask myself if we are cursed as black nations or we are not doing the right thing. I believe we are not doing the right thing couple with bad leaders who are selfish, is time for us all to revisit our bible and revisit our souls. The Truth is "we are worshippers of pastors and not God".
Everything has to be about election with u. Election is over, Ur party won! Move d fuck on!
Delete@ Jaymoore, you don write epistle on top this matter o. How he dey do you? It's painful though. The mantra of "Touch not my anointed " is always re-echoed to silence the voice of reasoning. It is an overkill to harp on the palpable religious situation especially in Africa but is the exodus way the way? I attended one Lunch Hour Prayer Service in Central Area months back. In the course of the prayer, the MOG mentioned that someone in the church is pursuing a contract and if he doesn't come out to vow that he would pay 50% of the profit to God ( that Church Branch alone), he would lose the contract. You needed to see how everyone expecting a contract rushed out to vow, I am not going to mention the part where only those who pledged certain amount of money in categories got the pastoral prayers. I am not going to mention it. I went back to work feeling deflated.
Delete@Lol Kenny you did not join contract men, next time please step out. We are just gullible when it comes to religion. We do not practice what we preach.
DeleteMarket woman aka miserable Eka Joy. You know my only weapon for you now is Queen Arabella and sunshine right?
As Queen Arabella washed you down to your generation days ago you shamelessly could not challenge her or you didn't know what to say?
You are looking for a guy to exchange word with daily here instead of you facing your fellow girls who always wash you into pit of latrine you belong. You need me to reply your tantrum BUSH MEAT like you right? as your situation need urgent attention but you are close to burning out the rest fuel in you soon don't worry na JAY go laff last when it happen because you are on count down situation with me already and when i promise something i will see the end no matter what. My silence is just born out of giving you 2rd and 3rd chance as people in your situation always need it.
They say silent is golden but i have given you enough silence. Just continue to masturbate under my comment daily with your abuse. Thank God a man like me can't keep you as a maid talkless of talking openly with you. My promise to you will surely happen as a flash light to you by then it will be late to recover from it, i expect you to return to these blog to cry and i will waiting for those who will support whatever that comes your way as none have openly condemn your behaviour even when i ignore you all the time with your insults and abuses. For those who will say Jay Moore why did you behave like this, is time for all of you to call Eka Joy to order this is my last response to your issue.
See it long epistle on top this miserable market woman. Oshisco!
DeleteJaymore.. Jaymore.. Jaymore.. how many times did I call you.. Why are you dragging my weapons of mass destruction with me.. I don't like this .. Imagine the Hianity *in JIB's voice..
DeleteI will pass.
ReplyDeleteETC,! Nice write up,,,,,,,,,U re an advocate. I ope ur notion abt Christianity has not taken u away from serving GOD. I quite agree with some of ur points even as I disagree wit some as well. My wish 4 today's Christianity is that there wil be a common name boldly written on the temple of God on dis planet earth ie CHURCH OF JESUS regardless of who owns it. CHRIST neva preached membership buh DISCIPLESHIP. If there a common name to evry Church of God, pastors wil not afraid to preach the truth buh here bc he want a large offering n partnership frm members, it wil be difficult 2 call a spade, a spade. Again, giving in tithes n offering is not a pathway to heave buh to prosperity,, d principle of giving n receiving works 4 evryOne both christian n non, let's us not be deceived buh whatever u hav given, u ve already gotten d reward on earth in d same measure. In as much as we belong to dis papa's church or d other, alwayz be guided by the word of GOD n listen to the spirit of God in U#HEAVEN N HELL IS REAL# CHOOSE CHRIST AND LIVE#
ReplyDeleteI agree with some things but Nothing can stop me from paying tithe. I have seen its wonder working power in my life so I don't even pay attention to msgs about not paying tithes.
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The church is marching on and the gates of hell shall not prevail.."Upon this revelation,I ll build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail"
ReplyDeleteYou're part of the problem with the church..my bible told me about great people like josiah,solomon who used gold,best timbers and costly ornaments to build the temple of God..I know most churches go for evengelism,my church does!!
"Shall we continue to live in sin that grace might abound?"...you talk about God being a consuming fire right,yet you have the guts to pick up lappy and type ignorantly?ask God to open your eyes concerning spiritual things!!...heaven is a personal race!!if you're so holy ghost filled,you would start by cutting those dreads(only nazareths carry dreads)since u think only levi's take tithe..Bible tells me I'm a descendent of Abraham and from the tribe of judea,doesn't mean I have a direct lineage with them..its all by faith..stay there and be waiting for who would force you to give your life to christ inugo??Jesus is coming soon!!
Adaeze Chukwu
The church is marching on and the gates of hell shall not prevail.."Upon this revelation,I ll build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail"
ReplyDeleteYou're part of the problem with the church..my bible told me about great people josiah,solomon who used gold,best timbers and costly ornaments to build the temple of God..I know most churches go for evengelism,my church does!!
"Shall we continue to live in sin that grace might abound?"...you talk about God being a consuming fire right,yet you have the guts to pick up lappy and type ignorant?ask God to open your eyes concerning spiritual things!!...heaven is a personal race!!if you're so holy ghost filled,you would start by cutting those dreads(only nazareths carry dreads)since u think only levite's take tithe..Bible tells me I'm a descendent of Abraham and from the tribe of judea,doesn't mean I have a direct lineage with them..its all by faith..stay there and be waiting for who would force you to give your life to christ inugo??Jesus is coming soon!!
Adaeze Chukwu
The altars God instructed men to build for him in the old testaments were very expensive too. Don't be quick to forget how much Solomon spent to build God a place of worship.
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I agree with him, especially in the area of tithing. Most tithers wont agree but the truth is, Christians are no longer binded by the Mosaic Law so are not required to pay tithe.
ReplyDeleteYou see, tithe is a compulsory levy imposed by God to the Jews so that the levites then who are not required to work will have something to eat. And then, they inturn will have to pay one tenth of whatever they recieve for the widows and the fatherless. But as Christ died he modified that law being that every man (whether Jews, Gentiles and all) exercises faith in his ransom sacrifies became Christians (Not Jews).
Besides 2 Cor 9:7 has this to say: "Let each one do just as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsuion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
Note that the scripture says not under compulsion? But the tithe was a compulsory levy to the natural Jews.
But if you have resolved to be paying one tenth of your income to the church every month, then fine so long it'll be given cheerfully but let ni one compel you to. And if another person can not afford to pay one tenth of his income every month, let no one judge him for he is not under compulsion to do so. What ever you are able to give God is ok.
For God loves a cheerful giver
He hit the nail on the head
ReplyDeleteJesus Christ never preached or mentioned prosperity? "I wish above all things that u will prosper n be in good health even as ur soul prospereth" that's my God.! There's got to be an original for a counterfeit to exist. If there r false prophets, then there r real ones as well. U man, have u checked ur life to see u r on d path to heaven? Or u just write cos u think it will make an interesting read in which case u won't be different from d false prophets who do things for personal gain. Let's take off d wool in our eyes before we try to help a neighbor.
ReplyDeleteMy brother etc,I don't agree with your first point. You said there were no churches. I put it to you that Jesus went to church. A temple is a church. So many instances of that in d bible. He called it his father's house. He chased traders away with a whip cos they were desecrating it. Second, have u read the story of the widows mite? A simple popular story. It all happened because of offering! Who a better offering. On the issue of tithes, it's a personal thing. It does not have to be 10%. You can give more! It works for him. I know what happens to my finances if I don't pay my tithe and I know what happens when I do! We worship a God who is a spirit. I don't give a shit what d pastor does with it. I leave him to God! Overall, our Christian race is a personal one. God will judge every one individually! We all know the truth and it will always set us free.
ReplyDeleteDis dude has Notin to offer so y waste my tym reading ds shii
ReplyDeleteSpot on brother e.t.c, most of these charlatans who call themselves Men Of God are just exploiting the extreme poverty in Africa to enrich themselves. People have become so gullible that they believe anything that gives them a ray of hope that one day they shall overcome their current predicaments. Most people who go to church in Africa nowadays don't even consider salvation as one of their reasons for going there but rather the quest to better their lot. Anyways, let God be the judge of all.
ReplyDeleteGod bless u jare, some over zealous Christians will insult him. The western world brought Christianity to we Africans but the way we practice it baffles me. My pastor is my BIBLE, it can't lie
ReplyDeleteDeuteronomy 26:12-14 NKJV
ReplyDelete“When you have finished laying aside all the tithe of your increase in the third year— the year of tithing—and have given it to the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, so that they may eat within your gates and be filled, then you shall say before the Lord your God: ‘I have removed the holy tithe from my house, and also have given them to the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, according to all Your commandments which You have commanded me; I have not transgressed Your commandments, nor have I forgotten them. I have not eaten any of it when in mourning, nor have I removed any of it for an unclean use, nor given any of it for the dead. I have obeyed the voice of the Lord my God, and have done according to all that You have commanded me.
Jesus Christ address Apostle Paul Peter address this. Y all the gullible participants /? U need to declare Jesus Christ as ur Lord And Saviour. All manipulative n controls holds will b broken.
ReplyDeleteYes most of excetera points r valid.
MY GOD! ETC YOU ARE AN ANGEL SENT FROM HEAVEN TO TELL THE TRUTH, ONLY BUT THE TRUTH. OH DEAR I LOVE THIS GUY TO HEAVEN AND BACK. I VE BEEN READING ALL HIS WRITE UP, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE TRUTH THAT HE HAS BEEN TELLING. PLEASE KEEP IT UP, LOOKS LIKE A CALLING! YOU ARE REALLY AN ANGEL. YES I HAD TO SHOUT BECAUSE THIS IS ANOTHER OPEN TRUTH BUT MANY DO NOT KNOW IT. GOSH! I'M SO IN LOVE WITH THIS GUY. I LIKE IT WHEN PPLE KEEP IT REAL.
ReplyDeleteDesperation and poverty piled on shallow mindedness. That's the problem with Nigerians. Who are the Japanese, Chinese and other Asian tigers paying tithes to. One thing I've noticed is that all churches and denominations have equal ratio of poor, middle class and rich people depending only on the neighbourhoods where they are located. Yet everyone claims to be the answer to your problems. Seek ye first the Kingdom.
ReplyDeleteEtcetera is a very fine writer who churns out very good thought provoking pieces. I try to enlighten some friends of mine about the reverence for churches here in Nigeria being very much overrated by the over-enthusiastic members. Most church loving people act like severely brainwashed puppets to their pastors and it's painful to realize that they do not have a mind of their own when issues come up.
ReplyDeleteThis write up plenty, will read it after the hand over. Stella i sight you.
ReplyDeleteVery good. Etcetera im with you on this. Imagine majority of them deceiving their flocks getting richer and richer while their flocks suffer in abject poverty. With all their fake prophesies. Is no longer money,designer items,private jets,property acquisition is now POLITICS.Who is fooling who.If i hear touch not my anointed you will tell me who anointed so many of them.
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This guy is a Pharisee....so because the apostles didn't go to church on Sundays so it means if you go to church on Sunday u r going to hell....Amazing! Wasn't that what Jesus was trying to address when some people condemned him for performing a miracle on sabbath day! Look been religious is hypocrisy...Following Christ is Christianity.
ReplyDeleteMy other question is that, Is Etc now God that he is able to pass judgements? It is well.
This proves Etcetera's point https://vimeo.com/31413008
ReplyDeleteNemerem you are very wrong about the Sunday that u said Christ resurrected. Jesus said the son of man will be in the earth 3days and 3nights so if he supposedly died on Friday and resurrected on Sunday morning that means he stayed only 2nights na and he cannot lie so please read ur bible properly before commenting on topics like this. Etc is correct about Sunday not being the right day of worship
ReplyDeleteAnonymous did u not read where Jesus told the Samaritan woman that a time will come when u don't have to go to jerusalem to worship but u can worship wherever you are. The church is now you because we now worship in spirit, so wetin spirit come get with the biggest cathedral or ornaments? God no talk say him go judge the finest church building na us wey him say him go judge oh. So that your prevailing the gate of hell na you him mean as church not the building oh
ReplyDeleteAnonymous did u not read where Jesus told the Samaritan woman that a time will come when u don't have to go to jerusalem to worship but u can worship wherever you are. The church is now you because we now worship in spirit, so wetin spirit come get with the biggest cathedral or ornaments? God no talk say him go judge the finest church building na us wey him say him go judge oh. So that your prevailing the gate of hell na you him mean as church not the building oh
ReplyDeleteIndeed, so called 'men of God' have become 'god of men'; but Etc, u must study to show urself approved. Do u even know d definition of d word 'CHURCH'? U are d 'church', d abode of d Holy Spirit therefore, ur body's God's temple. About tithing, read John 21: 15-17, wherein Jesus Christ instructed Simon Peter to FEED HIS (CHRIST'S) SHEEP, in other words, gather n provide physically n spiritually for God's people. Ur tithes/ offerings are required to feed Christ's sheep. *Note: Then, Jesus Christ preached in parables. Now, He's back on earth bringing His elect to d accurate knowledge of d truth about Jehovah God n His kingdom. YES, CHRIST IS BACK! -D Power of Alchemy
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