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This is a very dicey situation and i do not like to judge men of God but the truth is that these are the end times and all manner of men will come in the name of God but are not of God....how does one spot a man of God?by what he says or by what he does?
Is it right for a man of God to make you promise his ministry something financial before he blesses you?
Some things that some men of God do are so unbelieve-able able that when the ears hear the mouth opens in fright!
''Stella,please help a friend out,i am in a confused situation right now. my question is ….is it right for a pastor to ask you to buy something worth about N60k plus when you also vow to GOD to give to his ministry if you get that breakthrough that you are searching for?
My story goes like this..i was in a situation where my relatives had to sought the help of this pastor in prayers, and i was told the man ask me to call him so he could hear from me,my dear Sdkers ,i call the pastor and he begin to question me and so on ,well to cut it short he said his reasons of longing to hear from me is because i have to promise GOD,what i will be able to do if i get my said breakthrough.
I told him i Will give a specified amount to his ministry,he asked again and i told him the same amount,the next thing, the pastor said was that i have to send or ask my relatives to buy something worth N60k for the church before the prayers will commerce from there.
After the whole conversation i sat down and start thinking if this was normal or not.please what do you guys think?''
*DEEP SIGH*
When una go dey waka waka from one ministry to another, one prophet to another, one white garment church to another, why won't you encounter all sorts? Can't you kneel and pray to God on your own? Or the prayers said in your own church no reach?
ReplyDeleteIf you believe in jumping from spiritualists to spiritualists in times of trouble, then you can as well visit Babalawos cus its all the same mentality and none of their services are for free!
Is we human beings dat likes to confuse ourselves although I realy dnt blame us cos of d Things we hear abt. 'Men of God' this days.
DeleteHunnay, listen there are different ways God uses to hear and answer our prayer, okk let me share this true life testimony with u, a particular woman a nurse ind USA made a mistake gave a white woman overdose and she died, u know what that means, the trouble was much, back home someone introduced her to a prophet, they talked on phone the prophet prayed and God told him that the woman should pay to him her tithes for 3months, a nurse in the US do u knw aw much she wll be earning hence the huge money she Will av to pay to the pastor, if she had doubted d man of God nd dint Pay it who knws wat might Av happened, she payed the tithe first month,2nd and 3rd. To cut the long story short, the woman was found not guilty and freed, u know wat dt means...God told the man of God to tell her for paying tithe she's not Guilty in heaven and on earth, she ws happy surprised, marveled, something that seemed impossible, am telling u she asked the man he shld say wateva he wants he wil buy it for him, she bought the man of God a brand new car....
Well so many people will say many things that why can't u pray ursef, bla bla isn't it suppose to be free, wish I could write the full story but lemme indulge u why not do it first and see what will come out of it, dnt let ur faith be disrupted by all news abt men of God lately, there are still very real ones....#My opinion
Bless up dear!
Mba9 you are right my dear.
DeleteI find it very funny when I see people jumping from one church to another because they have a problem. What happened to your own church? Is God not there?
What happened to your knees and mouth? Can't you pray to God by yourself? Must you jump from one pastor to the other in search of sharp sharp miracles? Hian!
All my life,I have never gone to any pastor to pray for me or see vision for me. I pray to God by myself.
As a staunch Catholic, I visit the blessed sacrament and talk with my Jesus #SoRefreshing.
I say my rosary,I do novena and book mass, and go for confession, that's all. So far, my God has never disappointed me and I have faith that he never will.
Poster I can't answer you and I cannot judge the pastor either because I don't know how pastors operate. I have no business with them and will never have in Jesus name, Amen.
I know my recent haters will want to kill themselves because of my comment...do so with all pleasure.
I no send.
You jus answered ur own question,by dia fruits you shall knw dem,there is no price u shud pay cus christ has paid it all,if u feel u wanna appreciate God frm ur heart do it without any form of compulsion dat church does'nt seem realy to me period
DeleteIf Godbless me and I refuse to pay tith is left btw me and my God not for pastor to start shouting,those with 200k come out down to 100naira and give dem special oil so those witout money no annoilting for them.pastors make una dey fear God oh
DeleteA particular pastor in benin dat specialize in giving and hlpng grls for marriage I spent about 150 and am happily married today ladies hurry up with ur dream man pic u wd be suprised what God wld do
DeletePastor with jazz? Abi why the need for pic
DeleteThis is just insane! Imagine, we have turned God's ministry into money doubling tinz!. "Give us some money and you'll see what God will do". This is just a scam for crying out loud.
DeleteCan we honestly say to ourselves that 2000 years ago, Jesus would do this to people that needed His Help??!
Salvation is FREE!! I cannot simply believe the comments on here. Someone even mentioned a pastor negotiating the price! Did Jesus tell the woman with the issue of blood to give him money before she could be healed?!
Honestly, the sooner we learn that we can go to God ourselves and not depend on someone more "holy" to intercede on our behalf, the better we'll be at understanding His purpose for our lives.
@anon 4:25 u r one sick bitch!u also must hv bn so desperate 2 settle down 2 gv one 'so called clown' 150k 2 get married!hp ur so called 'happy marriage' does not turn into a nightmare in d nearest future!pray very hard& stop giving pple wrong advice!desperado!
DeleteThat's extorttion 2 me o nd I dnt think its right 4 a man of GOD to demand material things from u or cajole u 2 make promises cos u need spiritual help...u cld make a convenant with that that u will do this if he does that or stretch u faith by doing it even b4 u see d product bt that's btw u nd GOD nd he sees ur heart....but hey, what do I knw...only GOD knows
ReplyDeleteWell my dear it varies. It is just sad that the fakes have diluted the potency of striking a grounded covenant with God. However, there's a great efficacy attached to when u want something from God, and u promise in return to bless ur church, pastor, or his ministry with something tangible in appreciation.
DeletePerhaps this is what the poster's pastor is trying to achieve. Only it is wrong to refuse to bless someone because they have not promised a grand 'price' in return. That is NOT of God.
What If u do not have the wherewithal to do so? Would u be refused prayers??
Poster, the best covenant u can ever make is that which u make with God yourself from the genuine corner of ur heart. And afterwards it is imperative that u fulfil your side of it...because it is even more costly to u if u refuse to establish anything u promise God. Your conscience will elude peace..that is if u have one.
There is liberty in christiandom. And as such deliverance and salvation is FREE. I study the Devil and his agents as much as i study Jesus Christ and His apostles. Doing this has enlightened my spiritual perspective to be able to distinguish btw the men of God and the men of the Devil.
For instance, if u visit a herbalist to heal u of leprosy, after he has healed u he will not collect money for the job. Why? Its been said that anyone who gets paid for healing such diseases are often hit by it after they get paid for it..(according to traditionalists). However, the herbalist may encourage u to come at a later time to bless him with whatever gift u deem fit. That is the devil's diplomacy.
As for a genuine man of God. Yes it is advised that u bless a man of God with an offering when he prays for u. As most are full time pastors and they have to make a living somehow. Only the fakes have abused this privilege, hence the confusion today. You can bless ur pastor and make a covenant with God on ur own without ur pastor's knowledge. It simply means u want to pull God's blessings upon ur life in double folds. No more no less.
Finally no pastor should make u feel indebted to him or his church no matter what. He should do his bit and allow God do His too without giving u the guilt trip. And there should be no specific naira figure attached to any prayers abeg. My opinion.
The church of God has gone capitalist everything has been monetized
ReplyDeleteChurch is business, hw do u expect the pastor to pay his bills!!
ReplyDeleteGod bless you!
DeleteIt's an abomination when the Pastor asks but when a herbalist does, it's normal. Bloody hypocrites!
ur head dey dia
DeleteOgbeni he's a fake, no true man of God will compel or ask you to give specified amount of anything. Your only one that should compel you is the holyspirit who'll bear witness with your spirit, shikena
ReplyDeleteWhy do we lie to ourselves? Your inner mind most always tell u d truth @ all times my dear , so pls stop acting like u don't knw d truth but since u pretend not to knw my advice is dat u fleeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Don't luk back....he's a modernized jazz man don't b deceived.
ReplyDeleteHmmm, Stella I personally try not to get into arguments on things of the spirit. My opinion here is simple tho. We all have the spirit of God inside of us. If God leads you to sow, then sow. But if you are not led, then don't sow cos there's no reward when you sow unwillingly. The Shunamite woman gave all she had to Elisha because she was convinced within her to sow and she got her reward in due season.And the bible makes it clear that God loves a CHEERFUL giver meaning it must flow from your heart.
ReplyDeleteAll the same, I don't think its right for the pastor to make it a condition precedence to getting prayers. Its okay to sow a thank you seed after God has blessed you, but to DEMAND for it in lieu of prayers... that one get as e be...
I'm surprised you had to think about it. Ofcourse it's a scam. How much did Jesus collect before dying for our sins? Sometimes I can't understand why ppl are so bent on pastors praying for them before they receive a miracle. Wetin do ur mouth? Jesus died for our sins that we may have direct access to God. Sometimes I think we as humans underestimate God's grace. Pls keep ur money, get down on ur knees with a clean and expectant heart and talk to ur God.
ReplyDeleteJesus died for our sins yeah but it wasn't free. He paid a price! If you don't understand, ask the Holy Ghost to explain it to you. All these self-righteous religious pricks.
DeleteYou can get down on your knees and pray but you also need a spiritual head or covering. That's why Jesus ordained Pastors, evangelists and the rest.
When these same people look so haggard and poor, it's still your kind of people that'll run to the rich churches.
Wen jesus christ sent out his deciples he nvr tuk a dime he evn told them to collet noting there were instances in d bibble some other people were using his name to make money doin miracles its wrong to colet money dnt dcv urslf. Jesus destroyed the temple bc of fraud and sales politices goin on,were in d bible was money give even in d old testament it was sacrifices and burnts offering give a psrtor a goat and ram fowl and birds if he need sacrifise mk he go chop rubbish.pastors
DeleteSilver or gold I have none but what I have I give u for_________free,not for money not goat not cars for free-----
Deleteabeg read d word before commenting
DeleteHe even asked you to buy something of that worth.
ReplyDeleteSome charge for delivery sessions.
Yes....liquid fire ministries In PH told a friend of mine's family to pay 100k for family deliverance and sow a painful seed to dem
hmn! Poster why don't you put your knees on the floor and pray!
ReplyDeletetalk to God in prayers yourself.
with a clean and sincere heart commune with God and he will answer.
all this running to mog for prayers...
not bad though but YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF
This particular pastor.....I no trust am! I repeat...I NO TRUST AM AT ALLLLLLLLLL
Gone are d days of prayers and miracles for free. Churches now a daysare PLCs; bigger than Microsoft sef. Lmao
ReplyDeleteClick my name for all your celebration cakes and cupcakes, cheers
Even the bible somewhere in Mathew says ask and u shall receive, seek and u shall find.
ReplyDeleteseek God yourself.
Matthew 7:7
DeleteOluyomi Odukoya
If u can't pray ur way out, look for real men of God. Freely we were given n freely we received. Salvation and healing are not for sale. Pls, run for ur life, u don enta one chance b dat!
ReplyDeleteBros keep your money, what kind of prayer is that? Is prayer now a business service that he wants payment? Did he pay God to call him to his ministry ( if it was God and not he that called himself). Abeg make he pack well.
ReplyDeleteMoses A.
Hmmmmm its a ministry my dear,every Pastor is blessed with his own gifts from God, if you can afford it my dear,please give the 60k but what matters most is the FAITH you have to believe that whatever the situation is, it is gone,some people play intelligence and smartness with God when it comes to giving and sowing seeds just because they don't trust the Pastor,its not the pastor's instructions its God,seeds are very important, some ministries used their interceed on a particular problem,if your pastor says give this and you can afford it, please give but its not unto him you give,but unto God, but if you can't afford it and if he still insists RUN!
ReplyDeleteon point. U just need understanding poster
DeleteMost people we call Pastors in Nigeria are not real Pastors. Most of them are men of devil.
ReplyDeleteOnly thieves and fake pastors will ask you to pay or bring items before receiving breakthrough. some even claim they will fast on one's behalf.... sounds absurd
ReplyDeleteGod Himself does not demand a dime from us before we receive breakthroughs (ofe nigbala, ofe niwosan) so who the hell is a pastor who is just a human being like me?
However people can decide to make vows on their own not necessarily being forced by any pastor
A fool and his/ her money are easily parted.
ReplyDeleteLazy fake christians, so Christ wasted his death?
Christ died so the barriers between us and God will be torn and we can go to God directly inprayer but trust the black man to always be stupidly lazy, contracting prayers out, Oya na, make it 6million self. You deserve to be scammed. Shey you cant read bible or pray by yourself, continue to waka around.
ASK THE PASTOR IF HE IS A NATIVE DR that requires goat and yam before he commence prayer, nonsense.
ReplyDeleteit happens a lot in dis nation to d desperate & ignorant
ReplyDeletevery funny how a very close freind of mine went to see a pastor just yesterday and she was told to bring 45k for deliverance from spiritual husband, she later beat down the price to 15k and now i am reading this. well who am i to judge??? but i still believe the things of God are free, you only show appreciation and thats btw u and God not wen u are compelled to by same pastor
ReplyDeleteDear poster, y going to pastors for prayers wen u can pray urself out of that situation, the only prayer God hear is Your prayer
ReplyDeleteHmmm, that's the 'in thing' o my people. May we never experience problems bigger than us. Poster please don't pay, just go on your knee's n tell God what u wil do to show appreciation if he answers your prayers. Choose something tasking (vow). My relative don pay money tire no show.
ReplyDeleteWhat poverty and get rich quick syndrome will cause in this nation ehn!
Bring your prayer point to helphumanitynow@yahoo.com. We will join you to pray about the issue. We do not ask for money. You can also look for other group prayer websites. They are for free. When I was passing through a difficult situation, prayer groups like this helped. Mary
ReplyDeletejoin elishagoodman.org
DeleteOne told my husband and I to sow seed of 700k he came to preach in our church we didn't go to him my dear I just told my husband that the man is not God Almighty will bless when is time. No man of God will conjule me to give when the holy spirit has not spoken to me. Ada Agulu said so.
ReplyDeleteMay God bless you Stella for putting up my post.I thought as much .he is a scam.thanks sdkers commenters.God bless ya all.as for me I 've decided to seek the face of thy lord my self.once again thanks
ReplyDeleteevery believer needs a shepherd. Go on your knees and pray to God for one.
DeleteIt is wrong don't give any pastor money to pray for you.The bible made us to understand that anywhere he went he was doing good.He heals without collecting money go and read your bible very well.How much did the woman with the issue of blood paid to receive her healing.
ReplyDeleteLinda Eze na you be this? Beacause na only you fit write this kain thing, "call"
ReplyDeleteDear poster: if d so called exploiting pastor has d ability\ gift t pray n it will com to pass, how much dd he pay God t giv him such gift? My dear if u aint got what to do wt ya money, buy things n visit those in prison n motherless baby home. Ur sacrifice will speak f u in due season.
ReplyDeleteThx slim shady..I 'll surely visit the motherless babies home..I mean they deserve it more than the pastor joor
DeleteAny pastor that mandates you to pay for prayers is a fake pastor. Btw, why should you go to a pastor for prayers? What happened to going down on your knees? What your pastor can do, you can do as well, if not more? Sometimes, I'm amazed at how gullible some people really are - a gullible person is born every 11 secs
ReplyDeletelets not get it twisted, sometimes sowing a seed can provoke a blessing for you.....however most times it is you the individual God will ask to give a specific amount...yes God sometimes ask to give a specific amount but a true man of God will never tell you to pay before they pray.....if you make a vow and u dont pay it is with u and God.. his business is to pray with you and God does the rest
ReplyDeleteThe scripture is our standard. No prophet was ever payed in the scriptures. Even the highest priest, the Lord Jesus wasn't payed any amount rather He payed the price4us. So my dear speak to God yourself through the Highest priest. You should surely give to God but not bcos any man made it compulsory but becos the Holyspirit compelled u2do so
ReplyDeleteHe was! He was given a name abive all names and many more!
DeleteExactly. Even if we have to pay God, NO ONE can afford Him. Who would dare to match the price??? Unquantifiable He is.
DeleteOmo if you pray and fast for seven days with all your heart and you live right before the 7thday The Lord will manifest , it happened to me I was praying every 3 hours and I got the job , in fact two other people wanted me to work for them trust me there is power in prayer it works .times are hard ,man of God wey real will not ask for money until manifestation say Elizabeth
ReplyDeleteI don't believe money should be charge for prayers, come to think of it, if a Pastor collect 60k to pray for u, how much ll God charge the Pastor to answer d prayers. I believe tht if a man of God prayer for a need n it is met, God can also touch the person whos need was met to bls d pastor.
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ReplyDeleteWrong on every count. No one should make monetary demands on anyone in exchange for prayer.
ReplyDeleteChrist never did it.....his followers shouldn't
Freely ye have recieved therefore FREELY should you give.
Peter in the acts of the apostles asked someone who offered cash in exchange for the gift of miracles to PERISH with his money!
Acts 8:20...so who is fooling who?
Bible standards not mine.
I remember the story of Elijah and the widow of Zarephath. The woman had just enough to make a last meal for herself and her son so they eat and die, beofre Elijah came and asked her to make food out of that remnant for him first before either her or her son.
ReplyDeleteAnd it's interesting to know that it was God that directed Elijah to go to that place/city in the midst of drought, that He had had directed a widow (the same broke ass and no food one) to supply his needs. It's all in 1 Kings 17:7-16.
My dear ehn, pray and let God's Spirit speak to your heart and lead you on what to do. If your mind is not at peace about it, then don't give him.
Syca
Any Pst ð@ ask u 2 pay 4 prayers,deliveranz etc is a very fake Pst,he's gettin powers ð@ were payd 4 n nids to get ð money bk*freely did i receive,freely did i gv*Xcpt afta ð prayers u wanna sow seeds n appreciate ð Pst willingly elz run o.All dis whyte garment Prophets wey don de wear mufty
ReplyDeleteHahahahaha men be afraid o, women are jazzing you in the name of prayers. See the one that said hurry with the picture of your dream man to a place in Benin. Or the one that said the nurse sowed her 3 month tithe to be set free. God is the one that gives, your pennies are nothing to Him o. Naija people and turning our Loving and Merciful Father into an oracle. You jump around for solutions when there is a solution readily available to you. We are so lazy, we believe if you do not go through someone nothing will get accomplished. We do it in the workplace, we do it in Church. "Ah go to that powerful man of God and he will pray for you to get husband". Two years later, the husband is clubbering you to death and sleeping with the whole of Enugu. Abeg make all of you park well. Aunty OP, please pay the 60k since you do not know what to do with money. Don't get on your knees and truly seek God for help. I am not talking the one that the anon said about live right for 7 days and you will see a miracle (lol, you think God can be fooled), I am talking really search the Word and you will get your help. Quit being a typical lazy Nigerian.
ReplyDeleteask the pastor how much he paid Jesus for the gift bestowed on him
ReplyDeleteThe time is coming, and is surely upon us, when the wrath of God will be poured out on these 'men of god' Notice I used small letter g because I'm not familiar with what they serve. Jesus said, 'Freely you have received; freely give.'!!!!-Talking about anointing, healing miracles and breakthroughs. God is priming his true sons and daughters to rise up, and show the world that he is indeed a God of signs and wonders. And not a God of charlatans.
ReplyDeleteThere's a church at Allen bus stop,heard the man pray for runz girl and demand cut after the deal don click. Fight broke up when he prayed for one girl who got a white man and the white man gave her 700k and a car but the girl refused to give pastor shingba .
ReplyDeleteEhhh dat cash too small wheewww.shebi I nor get mouth to pray my self again.I give out Bcos my hrt tells me so but a pastor instructing me , is a no for me
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