Monday, September 02, 2013
Doctor Son Had No Deposit And Watched Father Die In LUTH Emergency Room
NO WORK NO PAY OR NO PAY NO WORK?
Doctors In LUTH are presently going through a storm..salary wise...Read what one of the Doctors whispered to me.
''Stella I want to tell you a painful story about my fellow house officer here in LUTH with me.
He was on call one night in his unit when he was called his father was sick and he was brought to the very LUTH he worked in. His father got to accident and emergency and was asked to pay 50k as deposit. His son who is a houseofficer in LUTH explained to his snr colleagues/management that because he hasn't being paid, he has no money to deposit but since he is a houseofficer in the hospital that he can't runaway that he would go and look for money and pay eventually.
They refused and while he was looking for money, his father had a cardiac arrest and died in the same hospital he has dedicated his life and work for 7months without pay... Tell me... Isn't this the real defination of injustice? How is he supose to feel? LUTH and the government must pay for this injustice!!!! Solidarity Forever. No work No pay!!! ''
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I hope they all burn in hell. Yes i want them to get paid but putting lives at risk is just nonsense.
ReplyDeletesad. . . what is wrong with Nigeria
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I can't believe this!
DeleteLike what's gone wrong with these people?
*smdh
OMG....Dis is so sad...Only God can safe Nigeria frm all dis trouble...Signed Omo Mummy
ReplyDeleteHe should sue D̶̲̥̅̊ hospital asap
ReplyDeleteOMG..Doctors are some of the must heartless people. Haba severe emergency cases should be treated no matter the circumstance
ReplyDeleteGovernment please nah, ahn ahn!!! Pay these people their salaries abeg. What a country we live in.. SMH.
ReplyDeleteStella, it's "How is he supposed to feel?" Correct the typo please.
Abimbola.
Gerout jor. So u can't over look a word of typo as sad as the read is?? It is pple like u that irritate the heck out of me. The story is sad enough so don't drag it backwards because of ur nonsensical trivial typo!
DeleteBut why??????
ReplyDeleteThis is freaking sad.
Sad the old man died.May his soul find rest! But whose side are you on?In one breath you comdemn the young doctor's superiors for ignoring the old man's plight and sticking to the industrial action(or wanting money first.what about the strike?).In same breath,out of no where,you chant a labour slogan.Was the old man supposed to get selective treatment for the 7months his son put into the system? Is the "No work No pay" emphasis directed at patients who do not ve relations as staff in LUTH? About the strike by Nigerian doctors,I need some enlightenment on the hippocratic oath.I am of the impression that saving lives comes first? Are there Doctors in the building? Thanks ahead.Signed:wide eyed!
ReplyDeleteMay d man's soul rest in peace but d above comment cant be anymore correct,i totally agree wit u.
DeleteSad. Hey why cry wolf? Isn't it the same way u guys treat people in general?
ReplyDeletei cannot correct it because the post is on quote..thank you!
ReplyDeleteU even have time to answer the oversabi. Same oversabi that killed LOT's wife in the bible. Small typo they can't over look. Msheeew
DeleteIn naija, Hippocratic oath don't count but in other part of the world it does. In naija, it's show me the money, I practice in the Midwest of the US and a lot of patients who come through the ER don't have insurance or means of paying and I don't think when they are being admitted they asked how they going to pay. Even if they mention they have no way of paying, they are not refused care, a Medicaid application is started and if the bill remains outstanding at the end of the tax year, it becomes a tax write off. May God help us in naija.
ReplyDeleteThanks lots.Maybe we ought to beg Doctors in Nigeria to stop taking that oath. Those who ve, can renounce same.An oath is what it is.Na swear! Signed:wide eyed!
DeleteRIP to d late dad...buh why is Mr doctor acting as if this is the first time it is happening? Is it because its now affecting one of them?...they usually watch patients die all in d name of 20k deposit or even at a lower price, well I fink this shld b a lesson to them, nd they shld learn to treat others lik human..I read of a pregnant woman dt ws allowed to die in ph hospital early ds year..he shld shut up and stp acting lik they don't do it to others...
ReplyDeletemake all of una shatap
ReplyDeleteits so sad his dad had to die dat way...yes his colleagues should av lent a helping hand.
abeg its not easy to work wif out pay for months n some fools like you all r opening ya gutter mouth to insult doctors
do u knw wat it is to be on calls over nyt n resume work d next day?
do u knw wat its to forsake ya family even on important days just to save a life?? and yet the stipend to put food on ya table n help those hu fink u r earning millions aint paid.
when nurses went on strike so dat dey would be calld consultant nurses didnt doctors do d jobs?.
@wide eyed oh yes saving life comes first wen u av at least eaten not wen u are owed for mnths.........
how do u expect an angry n hungry man to save ya life??
u all dont knw anyfin bout d hippocratic oath so stop quoting shit on this blog.
those dat wrote the oath werent starving dey had balanced meals on dia tables...
so puhlizz....
in any struggle there are casualities
You ve a point dear.Guess the Nigerian factor has killed every sector.I apologise if I came off as insensitive.The writer was for and against the strike.I had to choose life.For everyone.Signed:wide eyed!
Deletemake all of una shatap
ReplyDeleteits so sad his dad had to die dat way...yes his colleagues should av lent a helping hand.
abeg its not easy to work wif out pay for months n some fools like you all r opening ya gutter mouth to insult doctors
do u knw wat it is to be on calls over nyt n resume work d next day?
do u knw wat its to forsake ya family even on important days just to save a life?? and yet the stipend to put food on ya table n help those hu fink u r earning millions aint paid.
when nurses went on strike so dat dey would be calld consultant nurses didnt doctors do d jobs?.
@wide eyed oh yes saving life comes first wen u av at least eaten not wen u are owed for mnths.........
how do u expect an angry n hungry man to save ya life??
u all dont knw anyfin bout d hippocratic oath so stop quoting shit on this blog.
those dat wrote the oath werent starving dey had balanced meals on dia tables...
so puhlizz....
in any struggle there are casualities
Oh please, firstly all interns have not been paid. This includes pharmacists,lab techs and nurses. Don't make it sound like it is only doctors. Secondly, all health workers went on strike, don't make it exclusively nurses. You should get information on the issues and not trivialise it as nurses wanting to be consultant nurses.
DeleteThe issue at hand was caused by the government. As the writer wrote, his colleagues refused his father treatment. They did that to him.
Yh health workers went on strike,but we all know d group of ppl agitating to be called consultants,wen all dey do is to sitdown n write reports while d doctors are struggling to save a life
Deleteall d doctor is saying is dat if his salary had bin paid for the past five months he would av had money to deposit for his fathers care..
ReplyDeletethis happened befor they embarked on the protest.....
how many of you can work for half of the year wifout pay??
make una answer me.
n wan idiot is talkin bout dats how u do to patients...sebi doctors dey pay patient salary???
So sad :(
ReplyDelete-www.faithkel.com
@shukurah may u fall sick and accost a doctor burning in hell in see if u wont roast with him
ReplyDeleteu all would just use ya hands n type rubbish.....
as a medical student do u knw how many times i donated money to pay for some patients bills?
the doctors in the managing team were made to compulsorily donate apart from the work input
n one idiot is typing burn in hell
some one shuld go to school for as much as 10yrs thanks to asuu then he should start workin for about 7mnths no pay...n one fool said burn in hell may ya family burn on earth....
@anonymous 9;25. working in d states thanks for mentioning medicaid....is there medicaid in nigeria??
ReplyDeletethe federal govt is saying hospitals shuld pay house officers from internal revenue will it generate it self?
n my dear are u bin owed ya salary for d past 7mnths??
so please to claim to knw shit...
the hippicratic oath didnt stipulate dat doctors wouldnt be paid their wages
doctors are not protesting for salary increment they r protesting to be paid dia stipend.....
so my dear wen next u mention dat in d usa hippocratic oath is followed pls mention also dat salaries are paid wen due.
hipocrite.
There is this saying in Yoruba that "oko ti a ba so month ope ni ope nso moni. Nemesis
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately for this young doctor he's been victimized as both the unpaid doctor and the patient that's been unattended to. It can be very frustrating. Double jeopardy.
ReplyDeleteAm sure no matter how broke he is in future, even as a fall out of not being paid, he'll forever treat a patient with or without monies.
This will remain in his subconscious till eternity. Unfortunately its a hard way to learn. He's been made to walk in both sides of the shoes. Sad!
Hmmmm. It is very easy for people to comment on things dey know nothing about. Try walking in the shoes of a doctor for just a day and you would understand. They say we are heartless, they say we are supposed to treat patient's free, they say we have sworn an oath hmmmm. What they have failed to understand is we are humans too and we hav feelings. You think we want to send that patient away or let people die? In most of those cases our hands are tied and dere is nothing we can do. You haven't walked In our shoes so u can't understand. Don't judge us until you do.
ReplyDeleteOrela, you are not getting my point the least they could have done for that old man is stabilize him, I don't know his diagnosis but his death could have been prevented. The doctors refuse and his colleagues refuse care to ordinary citizens who can't come up with money now he's walking a mile in their shoes and he's crying foul play. I can tell you if it happens to the next doctor he'll scream murder too. Until they start treating others the way they want to be treated. I guess that guy never knew he could find himself in that kind of predicament.
ReplyDeleteThe morale of the story a lot of doctors, health workers are not in any way catered to by the institutions, where they render services.
ReplyDeleteThey are the same people who give up their loved ones, their time, their interests and life so some ignorant woman e.g Herpes or HiV laden, can go and do 7day naming.
The oath also considered being renumerated
Almost every month a part of a doctor's pay in luth is contributed in some many ways to the lives of the indigent ones and even people who have bn abandoned by their families
There is no security, we are at risk of being contaminated by highly infectious every day, not some days.
We loose sleep and still work days and weekend, put ourselves at risk of stress related disease. Check how many doctors have terrible Bld pressur n dey dnt ve d time to take care of it.how many slumped at work, home or traffic.
Doctors or not, they have earned their keep,they deserve to be paid. or are our senators n governors not paid even if they do nothing?
You were saying something worth reading until you made it sound like only doctors run calls,work weekends and sacrifice other special hols.all health workers do dear...so don't even attempt to make doctors take the credit.its a team-work.take the last JOHESU-strike as a case study.what did the doctors do to help patients without JOHESU members?
DeleteSo sad! RIP to the father.
ReplyDeleteThe government has so much to answer for! God dey!
Doctors can be likened to pastors. Both are life connected physicians (physical/spiritual) Only in Nigeria some pastors are living better than some doctors... and their monthly allowance they dare not be pay(pastors).
ReplyDeleteNot to talk of how Pastors keep getting cash here and there. Am not saying its bad, but just wondering why docs can't be adorned the same utmost reverence financial wise?
As Both have to be selfless in their respective service to humanity. But the Nigerian govt is taking undue advantage of our medical team! Same way they do others anyway. Ex, lecturers! The most vital ministry in ANY country is that of the health. And any country that lacks sufficient or adequate proviso towards its health n safety dept is a NO respecter for human lives. Period!
Didn't a recent survey assert that Nigeria will be the worst place to birth a child successfully in a few years to come? It is at times like this that I hate d affiliation I have with Nigeria. She's gradually sinking into a state of anarchy. Moreso as we are being subjected to medical redundancy! People who shouldn't av died are dying bcos of sheer negligence.
@wide eyed, I'm a doctor(not an intern; a registrar) and I know what HOs do cos I've been there. They ® at the bottom of the food chain in medicine, some patients actually open their mouths to tell u ' I no wan see dat small doctor. A patient has even slapped an intern before. Do tell me how this oath we swore is to be followed when some can't even afford transport to work or food to eat! Its a sorry state.
ReplyDeleteIn the past Doctors were people of dignity, revered n respected! But what do we get now? At least if u can't respect us like we should be respected, pay us what is due! Remember like my friend said above, it is someone who is not hungry and has job satisfaction dat can uphold the oath. So pleeaassee, try walking in our stilettos...lol before you judge. I rest my case.
ryt now......nobody shuld come with any walking in their shoe ish.....
ReplyDeleteaccording to d hippocratic oath i shuld see my fellow dr as my bro n sis.......
the doctor wasnt paid his money dats y he culdnt deposit for his dad
dats to make u know we doctors dont work to enjoy our meagre money odas do
im exposed to hazards everyday.wif a harzard that cant buy drugs for a mnth...
i give alot of myself to my patients
do u knw wat it means to attend to ppl hu dont see maintaining dia health as a good thing?
do u knw wat it means to attend to an ailing child whose parents left at home for the past one week detoriorating n then they are screaming down ya necks at 3;00am?
house officers r d first on call...they meet d patients first....hw can a nation not feed n pay dese set of ppl n d country expect the best health care
alot of u complaing want free everytin ya taxes u wont pay
if doctors are to listen to your everywhim doctors would look like AIDS patient n slump on ya patient n u will complain dat he shuld av helped u before he slumped....
d salary is meagre no qualms but pay
nobody shuld cuss me out cuss they can never n will never walk in my shoes
if u think u can..go burn d midnight oil studyin medicine....strt House job..n dont get paid for 6mnths strt begging for money to eat n hear ppl tell u daily dat a doctor cant be broke....wen u r thru this sequence open ya mouth n speak...or else i pray may u not reap d fruits of ya labour
@anonymous 11;59..be rest assured i wont get dat point cus u aint looking at d picture....
ReplyDeletedo u knw wat it means to stabilize a patient?do u think stabilization is giving the old man a chair to sit?
for petes wen u treat a patient u r stabilizing him the next u will say is stabilize the emergency cases forgetting dat any ailment is an emergency to does suffering it.
all organisation have rules.....the fellow doctors knw d guy hasnt been paid because the establishment was owing him hence those rules shuld have bin bent...
its just like u walking in a institution that is owing u salary for mnths n u need to fill a form u expect a lil crdt facility bcos u work there n dey knw u dont av oda source of money even if they send odas dat dont av the said money away..
the doctor is even complaining dat if he had been paid it wont get to dat extent of begging for free treatment for his dad pending wen he is paid..after saving the lives of other non-tax paying ingrate on an empty stomach....
I worked in LUTH as a houseofficer and I am currently practicing as a physician in America. Upon graduation from medical school in UNTH, we swore to a modified version of the Hippocratic oath. In summary, we swore to uphold the ethics of the profession, to respect human life, treat patients with dignity, keep bias and prejudice away from our practice of medicine and treat our colleagues as brothers and sisters or something to that effect. Most of my colleagues in Nigeria abide by this creed. You have to understand that we work under deplorable and sometimes inhuman conditions, and these circumstances make it extremely difficult to abide by the tenets of our profession. Some of the conditions even put the physicians in harm's way. I don't know if conditions have improved, but while I was at LUTH, I have had to set IV lines (for "drips") with the light from my cell phone because the power was out, slept in flooded, mosquito infested call duty rooms, buy my own supply of needles, syringes, test bottles for patients because the hospital did not always have supplies, watch a terminally ill patient die because the hospital ran out of oxygen, the list is endless and unfortunate. Sometimes doctors get into legal and police problems.I don't know if the rule that a doctor cannot treat a gunshot wound patient without a police report still applies. During my time in LUTH, a fellow house officer was assaulted by a patient's relative and the authorities looked the other way. It took protests from fellow residents before the issue was addressed, albeit inadequately.
ReplyDeleteNo sane and halfway decent human being will standby and watch someone suffer ill health and refuse to help. These guys have been pushed to the wall. I commiserate with the HO whose dad passed. It is very unfortunate, really sad. This is a reflection of the general rot in our beloved country. In the US, Medicaid is not for everyone, you have to qualify for it before you can use it. However, there is the "EMTALA" act passed by Congress which makes it mandatory for everyone to receive emergency medical care regardless of whether they can afford it or not. I think once you are within a certain distance from the entrance to a medical facility and you require treatment, they are bound by law to stabilize you before sending off to your primary care physician or to other non emergent care.
You are ignoramus.
ReplyDeleteThe height of injustise.
Let LUTH Management pay for that.
Rather unfair on the part of the house officer.
You are talking about one oath,is the oath binding on only the younger doctors and not on older ones.
Nonsense
So pathetic.This government keep looting funds meant for the masses. They should all remember that judgement day is coming
ReplyDeleteOrela and co, pls as soon as u finish ur housejob port out of naija sharp sharp. I'm sure nearby ghana treats dr's better.
ReplyDeleteLeave nigerians with their tradomedical specialists who they respect & fear more than orthodox medical practitioners
Hmmm SMH. I'm a doctor n I live quite far from the hospital. I have only been home for 2 weekends in the last 3 months. My husband almost regrets dt I'm a doctor n I have a 1yr old doctor who doesn't her dad cos she is wt her mum a doctor who works mornin till night goes home to sleep goes bak to d ward in d dead of d night wn a patient is in distress n has to resume at work at 8am d next monin. I mean its crazy n if anyone has good sense u won't be a doctor especially not in Nigeria. If my daughter grows up n says "mum I wanna be a doctor" I just might drop dead.
ReplyDeletewen u fall ill d doctors rotting in hell wont be dia to help ya sorry ass..
ReplyDeleteram oshi
Double standard is eating nigeria up nothing is working nobody is innocent both government and the governed...
ReplyDeleteGo to medical institutions:(general hospitals)
CMD is the grandfather of many consultants and the senior consultants are the fathers of the house registrar whose children are studying medicine our help system is family business and for "circle of friends"if you don't belong you cant fit in,you will hear a doctor telling an angry relative of a dying patient "do you know who my father is"
The system has failed greed have taken over there is no working with passion again
A country where an english lecturers child is studying english in togo or ghana
Its crazy when somebody that stole 1billion is fined 1hundred
And someone that stole maggi jailed Fø̲̣̣я̅ life
Please its the poor that suffer most just like the grass when two elephants fight...
In nigeria everybody is his own government so don't wait Fø̲̣̣я̅ selfish politicians
The system has failed.
ReplyDeleteIs NHIS accessible to the market women?
To think medical workers are being owed 7months salary, smh.
I'm shocked that the house officer's dad ws denied treatment. the stance of the senior officers is surprising. I thought medical workers treat their own wt extra care
How do they operate in LUTH? Dont they use 'assessment file', a procedure where all d bills are noted in a file, and the total is given to d patient at the end of the treatment. The patient may then be held back if he/she cant pay.
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why don't i believe this story? well maybe it happens in LUTH, but in the hospital where i trained, emergency treatment must be given weather the person pays or not. Admission deposit would only be requested for when the patient is stable and being moved to the ward from the accident and emergency. so saying they refused attending to him because he could not pay sounds impossible. maybe MRI or CT scan was requested for and they couldn't pay for it, but saying emergency care was refused a dying patient i say again is most unlikely. it may happen in private hospitals but not in our teaching hospitals. let us stop giving our heath system a bad name, pls give them some credit, they are trying their best
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